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  • Gino Ros
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    #11
    Originally posted by Gino Ros
    why would you pick a young ray against a old floyd at rays best weight and floyds worst weight.

    this makes no sense
    if you look at rays fight with floyds dad you can see that ray was having problems with that style. and floyd is a far far fAAAAR better fighter than his dad.

    this thread is ****** because of the years and weights you choose but it is also ****** because you cant look at fighters on paper and say what would happen.

    would floyd ever get dropped by kevin howard or dominated by ttn.

    when you you choose equal years then you see how close they would be.

    also remember that ray was at 147 ten fights into his career. floyd had 30 fights below lightweight.

    floyd is not a natural ww. he made himself into a ww so that he can get the big money fights. manny did the same thing.

    ray was in the olympics as jww at 140 and floyd was olympics as fw at 125. not same size at all.

    remember floyd was 146 on fight night when he fought zab at ww. compare to manny who was 145 on fight night when he fought marquez on superfeatherweight.

    you guys need compare floyd to arguello not leonard.

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    • talip bin osman
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      #12
      Originally posted by Gino Ros
      curry in the 90s? really?
      oh yeah... my bad... it was supposed to be late 80s... but WTF? it was still post-fab4...

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      • Dynamite Kid
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        #13
        One of the problems Mayweather would have against Leonard IMO, is that Leonard was too consistent for him, now its okay pot-shotting a robot like DLH, but Leonard would not fall asleep behind the wheel like DLH, he would walk right to Mayweather, as he did Hearns, and try to put it on him, and Ray was one if the most accurate fighters in history, particularly when it came to finishing, so piercing that defense would not be such a big issue from someone like Leonard, especially when you consider Leonard was a fast combination puncher.

        I just dont see how Mayweather would get enough done offensively whilst trying to shut Leonard's offense down, he would have to engage more or he would get outworked imo, if he engages he might get taken out.

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          #14
          I think Floyd is the best active fighter in the game but Leonard was better at everything except defense of course. As soon Leonard start throwing those quick combinations he would land, the shoulder roll won't be enough.

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            #15
            Leonard by a wide decision. A better fight IMO would be Leonard vs Trinidad. I think Tito could knock Sugar Ray out

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              #16
              Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby
              Leonard by a wide decision. A better fight IMO would be Leonard vs Trinidad. I think Tito could knock Sugar Ray out
              I love Tito, but if Leonard saw how Hopkins beat Tito, you can bet your life Leonard would put another Duran 2, Hagler type game plan on Tito, keep resetting him, hit and move.

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              • talip bin osman
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                #17
                Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                I love Tito, but if Leonard saw how Hopkins beat Tito, you can bet your life Leonard would put another Duran 2, Hagler type game plan on Tito, keep resetting him, hit and move.
                DK! hower u man??

                what about terry norris against a prime leonard??? awesome drool worthy tussle doncha think?

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                • Dynamite Kid
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by talip bin osman
                  DK! hower u man??

                  what about terry norris against a prime leonard??? awesome drool worthy tussle doncha think?
                  Im fine buddy, how about yourself, good i hope


                  Dont do that to me bro Lol, i seriously dont know who to pick in that fight, of coarse the temptation is to go with the guy who is perceived to be on a higher level, but the only thing the separates Norris from Leonard, in terms of talent, is probably his chin, as you know, Norris was every bit the fighter Leonard was, had lots of heart to, was a combo puncher like Leonard, was quick like Leonard, could box, and was very fluid, however just based on chin, im going to say maybe Leonard catches upto him, although the fight could quite easily go to Norris, i mean, its not like fighters with chin issues have not got by good punchers before.

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                  • talip bin osman
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Dynamite Kid
                    Im fine buddy, how about yourself, good i hope


                    Dont do that to me bro Lol, i seriously dont know who to pick in that fight, of coarse the temptation is to go with the guy who is perceived to be on a higher level, but the only thing the separates Norris from Leonard, in terms of talent, is probably his chin, as you know, Norris was every bit the fighter Leonard was, had lots of heart to, was a combo puncher like Leonard, was quick like Leonard, could box, and was very fluid, however just based on chin, im going to say maybe Leonard catches upto him, although the fight could quite easily go to Norris, i mean, its not like fighters with chin issues have not got by good punchers before.
                    norris is all wrong for PBF... all wrong for pea... man, i miss watching him!

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                    • Dynamite Kid
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by talip bin osman
                      norris is all wrong for PBF... all wrong for pea... man, i miss watching him!

                      Ha Ha, id love to see Norris beat the crap out of Floyd

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