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  • led
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    A 1981 “Sugar” Ray Leonard versus a 2009 “Pretty Boy” Floyd Mayweather
    By Colin Linneweber

    A welterweight bout pitting a 1981 “Sugar” Ray Leonard versus a 2009 “Pretty Boy” Floyd Mayweather would have been a fascinating battle of tremendous skills and contrasting styles.

    Leonard (36-3-1, 25 KOs), who captured a gold medal at the 1976 Olympics in Montreal and was the first prizefighter to earn in excess of $100 million in purses, is widely considered one of the greatest pugilists of all-time.

    “Sugar Ray,” the winner of five world titles in five weight divisions, managed to trump future fellow International Hall of Fame inductees Wilfred Benitez (53-8-1, 31 KOs), Thomas “The Hitman” Hearns (61-5-1,
    48 KOs), Roberto “Manos de piedra” Duran (103-16, 70 KOs) and Marvelous Marvin Hagler (62-3-2, 52 KOs) before he finally hung-up his gloves for good in March 1997.

    Regardless of Leonard’s litany of accolades and triumphs, the man named “Boxer of the Decade” for the 1980s was at his vintage best when he fought Hearns in September 1981 at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas,
    Nevada to unify the world welterweight titles in a contest scheduled for fifteen rounds.

    Hearns entered the Leonard bout with an unblemished record of 32-0 with 30 knockouts.

    “The Hitman” somehow generated frightening punching power despite his awkwardness and tall and skinny physique.

    In the promotion dubbed “The Showdown,” Hearns battered Leonard and was winning on all three judges scorecards after the conclusion of the twelfth round.

    Leonard’s legendary trainer, Angelo Dundee, screamed at “Sugar Ray” between rounds, “You’re blowing it, son! You’re blowing it.”

    With a horrifically swollen left-eye and nearing defeat, Leonard heeded Dundee’s words and stormed out of his corner with violent intentions at the start of the thirteenth round.

    Leonard subsequently pounded Hearns and knocked “The Hitman” to the canvas twice in the thirteenth round alone.

    Hearns barely survived the pummeling and was literally saved by the bell.

    In the fourteenth, Hearns was a lamb to the slaughter as Leonard landed furious combinations that caused the referee to mercilessly halt the bruising.

    Leonard continued to periodically fight for 17 years after he trounced Hagler in their initial contest and he vanquished many more fine competitors over that span of time.

    Sadly, after the Hearns victory, Leonard struggled with a serious eye injury and ******* and alcohol abuse.

    Hence, Leonard was at his most elite that late-summer night versus Hearns in “Sin City.”

    Although extremely debatable and controversial, Mayweather (41-0, 25 KOs) was at his dynamic best in the ring when he virtually shutout an undersized Juan Manuel Marquez (51-5-1, 37 KOs) last September.

    Mayweather, a nine-time titlist in five separate weight classes who was named Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year in 1998 and 2007, failed to meet the required weight limit for his dismantling of Marquez.

    Nevertheless, Mayweather’s utter domination of a worthy adversary cannot be diminished.

    Ultimately, Mayweather landed a surreal 59% of his 490 punches.

    Conversely, Marquez connected on a porous 12% of his 583 punches.

    Mayweather so thoroughly manhandled Marquez that it’s difficult to claim he wasn’t at his peak in the autumn of 2009.

    Still, if a 2009 version of Mayweather scrapped a 1981 edition of Leonard on ten occasions, “Sugar Ray” would have emerged victorious approximately eight times.

    In his prime, Leonard was naturally bigger, stronger and quicker than Mayweather.

    More importantly, Leonard was simply a mentally and physically tougher man than Mayweather ever will be.

    Mayweather, one of two boxers ever in Compubox history to go an entire round without being hit, is an absolute defensive wizard.

    “Pretty Boy” is such a legitimate defensive tactician that he would have consistently given Leonard epic battles.

    However, Mayweather mainly would have vacated an arena against Leonard as a decided loser.

    Leonard would have knocked Mayweather onto ***** Street six times and earned two more victories over “Pretty Boy” in a unanimous fashion.

    Strictly because he is a defensive virtuoso, Mayweather may have slithered by Leonard twice to prevail on the scorecards.

    Floyd Mayweather is a great fighter.

    “Sugar” Ray Leonard is an iconic pugilist.

    Floyd Mayweather does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breathe as Ray Leonard.

    DISCLAIMER: Mayweather fans generally loathe Manny Pacquiao supporters and vice versa.

    To be emphatically clear, “Sugar” Ray Leonard would have also thrashed Pacquiao.

    Nowadays, most people are too young, naive or uneducated to realize this fact and that’s a shame.
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  • Bushbaby
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    #2
    Great post,green k sent!!

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    • bojangles1987
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      #3
      I think someone else posted this as well.

      1981 Leonard beats 2009 Floyd 10 out of 10 times. He was so fast, so quick with his punches, so well rounded, and current Floyd just could not deal with everything Leonard brought to the table.

      2005 or 2006 Floyd would stand a much better chance, but ultimately would lose like 8 or 9 times out of 10 because Leonard was just too good at welterweight for Floyd, whose best weight resume wise was 130 and physical and mental peak was probably 135 or 140.

      And while I don't think he would get completely destroyed, yes Leonard would quite easily beat Pacquiao as well and almost certainly stop him.

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      • led
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        #4
        Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
        Great post,green k sent!!
        thanks

        Originally posted by bojangles1987
        I think someone else posted this as well.

        1981 Leonard beats 2009 Floyd 10 out of 10 times. He was so fast, so quick with his punches, so well rounded, and current Floyd just could not deal with everything Leonard brought to the table.

        2005 or 2006 Floyd would stand a much better chance, but ultimately would lose like 8 or 9 times out of 10 because Leonard was just too good at welterweight for Floyd, whose best weight resume wise was 130 and physical and mental peak was probably 135 or 140.

        And while I don't think he would get completely destroyed, yes Leonard would quite easily beat Pacquiao as well and almost certainly stop him.
        just a thought, the writer said 2009 floyd; was floyd better in 2009 than in his 2010 performance?

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        • BillyBoxing
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          #5
          Originally posted by led
          A 1981 “Sugar” Ray Leonard versus a 2009 “Pretty Boy” Floyd Mayweather
          By Colin Linneweber

          A welterweight bout pitting a 1981 “Sugar” Ray Leonard versus a 2009 “Pretty Boy” Floyd Mayweather would have been a fascinating battle of tremendous skills and contrasting styles.

          Leonard (36-3-1, 25 KOs), who captured a gold medal at the 1976 Olympics in Montreal and was the first prizefighter to earn in excess of $100 million in purses, is widely considered one of the greatest pugilists of all-time.

          “Sugar Ray,” the winner of five world titles in five weight divisions, managed to trump future fellow International Hall of Fame inductees Wilfred Benitez (53-8-1, 31 KOs), Thomas “The Hitman” Hearns (61-5-1,
          48 KOs), Roberto “Manos de piedra” Duran (103-16, 70 KOs) and Marvelous Marvin Hagler (62-3-2, 52 KOs) before he finally hung-up his gloves for good in March 1997.

          Regardless of Leonard’s litany of accolades and triumphs, the man named “Boxer of the Decade” for the 1980s was at his vintage best when he fought Hearns in September 1981 at Caesars Palace in Las Vegas,
          Nevada to unify the world welterweight titles in a contest scheduled for fifteen rounds.

          Hearns entered the Leonard bout with an unblemished record of 32-0 with 30 knockouts.

          “The Hitman” somehow generated frightening punching power despite his awkwardness and tall and skinny physique.

          In the promotion dubbed “The Showdown,” Hearns battered Leonard and was winning on all three judges scorecards after the conclusion of the twelfth round.

          Leonard’s legendary trainer, Angelo Dundee, screamed at “Sugar Ray” between rounds, “You’re blowing it, son! You’re blowing it.”

          With a horrifically swollen left-eye and nearing defeat, Leonard heeded Dundee’s words and stormed out of his corner with violent intentions at the start of the thirteenth round.

          Leonard subsequently pounded Hearns and knocked “The Hitman” to the canvas twice in the thirteenth round alone.

          Hearns barely survived the pummeling and was literally saved by the bell.

          In the fourteenth, Hearns was a lamb to the slaughter as Leonard landed furious combinations that caused the referee to mercilessly halt the bruising.

          Leonard continued to periodically fight for 17 years after he trounced Hagler in their initial contest and he vanquished many more fine competitors over that span of time.

          Sadly, after the Hearns victory, Leonard struggled with a serious eye injury and ******* and alcohol abuse.

          Hence, Leonard was at his most elite that late-summer night versus Hearns in “Sin City.”

          Although extremely debatable and controversial, Mayweather (41-0, 25 KOs) was at his dynamic best in the ring when he virtually shutout an undersized Juan Manuel Marquez (51-5-1, 37 KOs) last September.

          Mayweather, a nine-time titlist in five separate weight classes who was named Ring Magazine Fighter of the Year in 1998 and 2007, failed to meet the required weight limit for his dismantling of Marquez.

          Nevertheless, Mayweather’s utter domination of a worthy adversary cannot be diminished.

          Ultimately, Mayweather landed a surreal 59% of his 490 punches.

          Conversely, Marquez connected on a porous 12% of his 583 punches.


          Mayweather so thoroughly manhandled Marquez that it’s difficult to claim he wasn’t at his peak in the autumn of 2009.

          Still, if a 2009 version of Mayweather scrapped a 1981 edition of Leonard on ten occasions, “Sugar Ray” would have emerged victorious approximately eight times.

          In his prime, Leonard was naturally bigger, stronger and quicker than Mayweather.

          More importantly, Leonard was simply a mentally and physically tougher man than Mayweather ever will be.

          Mayweather, one of two boxers ever in Compubox history to go an entire round without being hit, is an absolute defensive wizard.

          “Pretty Boy” is such a legitimate defensive tactician that he would have consistently given Leonard epic battles.

          However, Mayweather mainly would have vacated an arena against Leonard as a decided loser.

          Leonard would have knocked Mayweather onto ***** Street six times and earned two more victories over “Pretty Boy” in a unanimous fashion.

          Strictly because he is a defensive virtuoso, Mayweather may have slithered by Leonard twice to prevail on the scorecards.

          Floyd Mayweather is a great fighter.

          “Sugar” Ray Leonard is an iconic pugilist.

          Floyd Mayweather does not deserve to be mentioned in the same breathe as Ray Leonard.

          DISCLAIMER: Mayweather fans generally loathe Manny Pacquiao supporters and vice versa.

          To be emphatically clear, “Sugar” Ray Leonard would have also thrashed Pacquiao.

          Nowadays, most people are too young, naive or uneducated to realize this fact and that’s a shame.
          ------
          http://www.ring-rap.com/2010/08/28/a...yd-mayweather/
          I only disagree with that.
          I mean,how Marquez is a worthy opponent at 144,err,146?

          Marquez was even not a full fleged lightweight.

          This fight was a disgrace and mean nothing.

          Klitschko would completely outbox a blown up prime Hopkins at HW,doesn't mean Klit is a better P4P fighter.

          Mayweather was too big,and Marquez wasn't in his element.

          How do you beat a fast counter puncher if you are smaller,shorter,lighter and slower due to the weight??

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          • Sam Donald
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            #6
            I dont have much time to read through it but from the title. I would favour Sugar Ray Leonard.. i just think he is just incredible. One of the greats

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            • talip bin osman
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              #7
              i made a thread about 2 days ago and in it i was trying to emphasize the depth of the quality of fighters in the fab 4 era (147-160)... aside from the 4, there were benitez, palomino, cuevas, kalule... talk about a great era!

              then the 90s? not as great but still great nontheless... mccallum, benn, whitaker, norris, curry, graham, jackson...

              compare those 2 eras to who we have now? berto, mosley, margarito, cotto, martinez and williams... its not as deep isnt it?

              i argued that if u could somehow put the 2 best fighters we have today, they will be very beatable in those eras...

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              • k1llu
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                #8
                Nobody adjust and adapt like pbf I just don’t see Floyd losing to anyone 8 time out of ten.

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                • Gino Ros
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                  #9
                  why would you pick a young ray against a old floyd at rays best weight and floyds worst weight.

                  this makes no sense

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                  • Gino Ros
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by talip bin osman
                    i made a thread about 2 days ago and in it i was trying to emphasize the depth of the quality of fighters in the fab 4 era (147-160)... aside from the 4, there were benitez, palomino, cuevas, kalule... talk about a great era!

                    then the 90s? not as great but still great nontheless... mccallum, benn, whitaker, norris, curry, graham, jackson...

                    compare those 2 eras to who we have now? berto, mosley, margarito, cotto, martinez and williams... its not as deep isnt it?

                    i argued that if u could somehow put the 2 best fighters we have today, they will be very beatable in those eras...
                    curry in the 90s? really?

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