James "Tap out" Toney and the UFC made a mockery out of boxing tonight

[fathergll]

UFC was the huge loser.

Firstly, Toney managed to steal a pay day from UFC by coming in with a beer gut and doing nothing.

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Secondly, a boxer was willing to take on a UFC legend who is still in shape at his own game. A UFC fighter has not, and will not, enter boxing and fight a comparable opponent; i.e. someone who is considered a legend and in shape, such as Hopkins.

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Yeah UFC really lost there! Dana White is a real moron for making $$$ from all the PPV buys that this event generated. What a bunch of morons!

[Brockton Lip]

Pretty disgusting night

Everything from the UFC announcers labeling Toney as "one of the best boxers ever"

To them billing that co main event as Boxing VS MMA

To the fans booing a boxer and shouting "UFC UFC UFC"

and of coarse there's Toney for talking so much trash and humiliating himself along with boxing for some cash and attention...dude is a sell out, I'm glad I was never a fan

but props to Dana and his company UFC, can't hate on their hustle and the way they market and spin things....and for Couture of coarse for doing what he had to do

Well...your post is being laughed at all over Sherdog. So theres another mockery unfortunately.

[eslubin]

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

Actually, I became a big fan of Couture that night. He handled himself with class and showed a lot of respect for Toney.

Leading up to the fight he said the same thing over and over and that is that he respects boxing as a great fighting art and that he would never stand a chance in a boxing ring.

Toney was the one running his mouth and you guys are missing the bigger picture in all of this. Couture said it after the fight, he said hopefully this will bring more lagit boxers to MMA and make the sport even better.

Could you imagine someone with the wrestling skills of Couture AND the boxing skills of a James Toney?

It's called evolution of a sport and that's what Couture and Dana were looking for, they weren't looking to humiliate boxing in any way. Now the UFC crowd is another story but you get drunken idiots everywhere you go.

[davidoff]

Boxing definitely came out on top. You really know what you're talking about!!!!

Thanks man.

[davidoff]

Yeah UFC really lost there! Dana White is a real moron for making $$$ from all the PPV buys that this event generated. What a bunch of morons!

The concept of MMA is bigger than Dana White. I wouldn't focus on how much money the President of the UFC made from it, who is always going to make a lot of money from it.

And secondly, he made a moron out of MMA fans who he persuaded to buy the PPV who otherwise wouldn't. Very few boxing fans who actually know anything about boxing sure didn't fall for that crap and actually buy it thinking it would be competitive. Just read the posts on here from before the fight. Many said it would be a straightforward, very early, Couture win.

The morons are those who bought it to see an old fat man tap out at the start of the first round, who, in the vast majority of cases, won't be people who know their boxing.

[Ravishing]

LOL it's so hilarious that people are ****ting on Couture when the dude was all class through the entire build up of the fight and after the fight. Toney CHOSE to go to the UFC...why??? Cause he wanted a check Boxing promoters wouldn't give him. Not that I'm being racist towards Toney (I'm Jamaican / Italian myself), but Toney was simply coonin for a check, plain and simple. Anyone who thought Toney was gonna simply KO Couture or who are now ****ting on Couture because he took Toney down obviously still don't realize Boxing and MMA are TWO DIFFERENT SPORTS and both have two different means of preparation.

On the flip side, many of the rabid Boxing fans who despise MMA would be clowning any MMA fighter who lost to a Boxer in a Boxing match. Call a spade a spade.

...now back to Boxing

[Ravishing]

The concept of MMA is bigger than Dana White. I wouldn't focus on how much money the President of the UFC made from it, who is always going to make a lot of money from it.

And secondly, he made a moron out of MMA fans who he persuaded to buy the PPV who otherwise wouldn't. Very few boxing fans who actually know anything about boxing sure didn't fall for that crap and actually buy it thinking it would be competitive. Just read the posts on here from before the fight. Many said it would be a straightforward, very early, Couture win.

The morons are those who bought it to see an old fat man tap out at the start of the first round, who, in the vast majority of cases, won't be people who know their boxing.

A lot of Boxing fans buy UFC PPVs, simply because they can distiguinsh one from the other and not always have to compare the two.

Toney vs Couture wasn't even the Main Event, but regardless of what both Boxing and MMA fans thought, everyone talked about it, just like how many of us hated JMM vs Floyd...but we all still talked about it whether negative or positive. Promoters either way don't care, and that goes for Boxing as well (if it wasn't evident enough already).

[TyrantT316]

Fact is, this is James Toney we're speaking about. A former Middleweight boxer who has had a career of not being in shape, old, doesn't like to move much and a lack of respect.

I don't believe he trained seriously for this fight for one. And two, Boxers just aren't used to dealing with multiple martial arts. Boxing is A martial art. Kickboxing is A martial art. Wrestling is A martial art. Karate is A martial art.

However take ANYONE from just one of those martial arts and put him in against a trained, professional MIXED martial artist, you may get the same result. Someone who is into Karate may not know how to handle a strong wrestler who knows how to mount, move and submit.

It was unfortunate to see this as a boxing fan mainly because Toney is such a decorated boxer. Heavyweight boxers, long ago, were looked at as the "Toughest Man On The Planet". And casual fans or MMA fans believe that Toney was like prime, top, Heavyweight boxer.

I am not saying a prime Foreman, Tyson, Marciano, Wladmir, Holyfield, etc wouldn't suffer the same result in 100% MMA rules. Though I do believe just about any HW other than Toney might have performed better as Toney is old and not in shape (and may not have even tried to train correctly).

You just don't take a decorated Marathon "Runner" into an Iron Man Triathlon (Running, Biking & Swimming) and expect them to do great. He's a great runner, but biking and swimming are two completely different animals.

[The Hammer]

Toney should have beaten the 47 year old Couture.

James "Belly's Out" Toney was just there for a paycheque, he wasn't in shape.