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  • Stab Judah
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    #41
    Originally posted by Syf
    lol...Toney has a chance... MMA doesn't know how to handle true strikers... Prime Toney would clean any of them pound for pound. What is de****able is they are taking a SHOT Toney, and then using what results from this as a barometer of Boxing vs MMA. Why not take a legendary prime boxer and pit him against your glorified backyard brawlers? Swine.
    Couture is older and is just as 'shot' in MMA as Toney is in BOXING.

    Toney went to the UFC the UFC didn't come to Toney.

    The results shouldn't be a comparison of Boxing vs MMA anymore than Mercer Vs Tim Silva was.

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    • sicko
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      #42
      damn these Under Card fights are TERRIBLE!

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      • Syf
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        #43
        Originally posted by RelliK
        Couture is older and is just as 'shot' in MMA as Toney is in BOXING.

        Toney went to the UFC the UFC didn't come to Toney.

        The results shouldn't be a comparison of Boxing vs MMA anymore than Mercer Vs Tim Silva was.
        Dana White ducks prime great boxers that talk about fighting in the UFC

        Couture is not as war weary as Toney.. Toney has taken enough punishment to the dome over the years to crack a bunker..

        Toney is a bigger name than Mercer. Toney is one of our ATG's in this sport. Sure, he's a punchdrunk idiot now but in his prime he was magic. Whatever the result here, it will have farther reaching implications than Mercer vs Silva.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Syf
          Dana White ducks prime great boxers that talk about fighting in the UFC

          Couture is not as war weary as Toney.. Toney has taken enough punishment to the dome over the years to crack a bunker..

          Toney is a bigger name than Mercer. Toney is one of our ATG's in this sport. Sure, he's a punchdrunk idiot now but in his prime he was magic. Whatever the result here, it will have farther reaching implications than Mercer vs Silva.
          point is it's 2 ATG's from their respective sports going against each other where one has all the advantages: Couture.

          The reason is Couture is at his natural prime weight, Toney is not only leagues above his natural weight of middleweight but he weighed in at his highest weight EVER in his pro career for this fight at 237lbs.

          Couture is older but he also started very late (in his 30's I think?) so has taken far less punishment. He was a major 'force' in mma far more recently than Toney was one in boxing. Couture also has about 25-30 fights and is fresher than Toney's 80 fights.

          Conclusion: Couture has all the advantages, including the obvious one that they're fighting under MMA rules. So Toney doesn't have too much to lose in actuality. BUT if he wins then MMA is exposed as the biggest farce of all time

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            #45
            Originally posted by Syf
            Dana White ducks prime great boxers that talk about fighting in the UFC

            Couture is not as war weary as Toney.. Toney has taken enough punishment to the dome over the years to crack a bunker..

            Toney is a bigger name than Mercer. Toney is one of our ATG's in this sport. Sure, he's a punchdrunk idiot now but in his prime he was magic. Whatever the result here, it will have farther reaching implications than Mercer vs Silva.
            Originally posted by etlux
            point is it's 2 ATG's from their respective sports going against each other where one has all the advantages: Couture.

            The reason is Couture is at his natural prime weight, Toney is not only leagues above his natural weight of middleweight but he weighed in at his highest weight EVER in his pro career for this fight at 237lbs.

            Couture is older but he also started very late (in his 30's I think?) so has taken far less punishment. He was a major 'force' in mma far more recently than Toney was one in boxing. Couture also has about 25-30 fights and is fresher than Toney's 80 fights.

            Conclusion: Couture has all the advantages, including the obvious one that they're fighting under MMA rules. So Toney doesn't have too much to lose in actuality. BUT if he wins then MMA is exposed as the biggest farce of all time
            Just seems like a no win situation for either sport.
            A win for Couture means nothing . A win for Toney hurts UFC and destroys Couture's rep.

            This is why I say it shouldn't matter either way. Just two men getting in a cage and basically street fighting.

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              #46
              Originally posted by sicko
              damn these Under Card fights are TERRIBLE!
              No kidding. Unbearably boring, especially that Maynard/Florian fight.

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                #47
                Originally posted by RelliK
                Just seems like a no win situation for either sport.
                A win for Couture means nothing . A win for Toney hurts UFC and destroys Couture's rep.

                This is why I say it shouldn't matter either way. Just two men getting in a cage and basically street fighting.
                if Toney wins it would just further reinforce the premise that washed up athletes from other sports can just walk in off the streets and be champs in low skill UFC. Except for Jose Canseco of course...

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by TPhenom01
                  No kidding. Unbearably boring, especially that Maynard/Florian fight.
                  yeah...I would think part of Dana White's strategy is to try to lure boxing fans to watch this UFC event and then get hooked on UFC so they can transition to being UFC fans. But so far it's turning me off to UFC even more than I was previously as this is one of the most boring dull series of fights I've ever seen in my life.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by etlux
                    if Toney wins it would just further reinforce the premise that washed up athletes from other sports can just walk in off the streets and be champs in low skill UFC. Except for Jose Canseco of course...
                    Come on man most MMA sucks but most of the tip top guys are good fighters in their own right........not the best boxers/punchers in the world lol
                    but skilled none the less.

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by etlux
                      yeah...I would think part of Dana White's strategy is to try to lure boxing fans to watch this UFC event and then get hooked on UFC so they can transition to being UFC fans. But so far it's turning me off to UFC even more than I was previously as this is one of the most boring dull series of fights I've ever seen in my life.
                      Bingo. Their marketing strategy is backfiring horribly. Boxing fans who hadn't followed MMA until tonight are going to be turned off by this borefest of a card. These fights have been atrocious.

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