Clottey couldn't miss Pacquiao, can Margarito?

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  • Roxas
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    #21
    Originally posted by Allucard
    Yes, maybe... But he is the bigger guy. That said, we haven't seen "the bigger guy" win in how long? 10 years? I think being the bigger guy is more of a matter of the people selling the fight than it is an important factor because there are many more important factors. Still i can see Margarito hitting Pacquiao more than a few times. To me the real question is, will Pacquiao be bothered by it enough he will go out of the gameplan? We'll see
    I agree but Margarito's only chance in this fight is to constantly land to Pacs body and use his greater size to physically push Pac to the ropes and score uppercuts if he cannot do that he has NO chance

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      #22
      Originally posted by Jack Napier
      Clottey is faster and more accurate than Tony
      Tony won't land a lot of combinations
      he has to hurt Pac to the body early and/or keep him on the ropes
      no way Tony tees off with big shots and lands them easily
      That and learn how to efficiently use a jab in 2.5 months.

      While everyone may say this fight will go like one of Manny's previous fights, I think it may be a hybrid of a couple of the past fight for him.

      Bigger stronger fighter (DLH)
      Slow, face first fighter (Hatton)
      Someone who can take a lot of punishment (Clottey)
      Good workrate, pressure (Cotto - for 5 rounds or so)

      Wow, I just made this up as I was typing it... Not bad.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Roxas
        I agree but Margarito's only chance in this fight is to constantly land to Pacs body and use his greater size to physically push Pac to the ropes and score uppercuts if he cannot do that he has NO chance
        Yup... I been saying these things. And I dunno if he can do it, but it would make for a very interesting fight.

        X-Factor for Tony = Uppercut (but he has to land it)

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          #24
          Clottey is much faster than margo. Also Margo's punches are wide and repetitive. So it is much easier to evade Margo than clottey

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            #25
            Originally posted by mruiz9
            That and learn how to efficiently use a jab in 2.5 months.

            While everyone may say this fight will go like one of Manny's previous fights, I think it may be a hybrid of a couple of the past fight for him.

            Bigger stronger fighter (DLH)
            Slow, face first fighter (Hatton)
            Someone who can take a lot of punishment (Clottey)
            Good workrate, pressure (Cotto - for 5 rounds or so)

            Wow, I just made this up as I was typing it... Not bad.
            sorry u had some good points up until this post

            bigger and stronger than dlh? bigger-no stronger-disputable not going into another plaster discussion here
            slow faced first fighter (hatton)- have u seen hatton fight? hatton aint slow
            good workrate (cotto)-lol no, never seen cotto throw an average of 100 punches a round, not even for five rounds...or so

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              #26
              Originally posted by Allucard
              If i had an option, I would choose not to get hit in the head more than i had to... But that just me. No dude, no one seeks more trauma than they have to and although manny had some macho moments in the fight and i think those are the ones you are talking about, Clottey was consistently tagging him in the head. It's been a long time since i saw Clottey vs Margarito but that could be a good indicator of how good is Manny's defense.
              Clottey's ring movement has been consistent since i first notice him 5-6yrs ago, he's always been a defense first kind of fighter. But with manny he was extra careful that night, now you should have take notice more on manny's movement rather than that of clottey's. Manny against DLH and Cotto or even Hatton he was much harder to hit, but that night with Clottey, Manny opted to fight stationary. Now against Tony i think Manny will resort back to bouncing around, side to side, in and out....

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                #27
                clottey wasn't opening up, wasn't throwing much punches which made pacquiao take some risks.

                even with that, clottey didn't win a ****kking round against the midget.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by -PANDA-
                  sorry u had some good points up until this post

                  bigger and stronger than dlh? bigger-no stronger-disputable not going into another plaster discussion here
                  slow faced first fighter (hatton)- have u seen hatton fight? hatton aint slow
                  good workrate (cotto)-lol no, never seen cotto throw an average of 100 punches a round, not even for five rounds...or so
                  All this in in reference to Manny and how they fought him. Margarito is bigger and stronger than Manny (like DLH not more than)? He (Hatton) does fight face first and was slower than Manny, was he not? And for the first 5 rounds (in the Cotto fight), the work rate against him was very good compared to Manny's past fights - it doesn't have to be 100 punches, just generally speaking. But it could have been Cotto's game plan that made him look decent for those first 4 rounds. So my bad on that...

                  From my view, that's how I seen the other fights, I understand if you saw them differently and have a different opinion. I'm assuming we all see different things or we'd all be "yes" men to eachother.

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                    #29
                    Marg just lacks the basic defence to deal with a speed demon like Pac and he doesn't even have a good jab Pac is going to rain punches on him worse then Mosley did

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                    • sicko
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                      #30
                      Margarito will be able to land punches no doubt but to every one punch it will be about 4-5 punches from Pacman, the Hand Speed will be a serious problem just like it was against Mosley

                      the best way to nullify the advantage of Hand Speed of your opponent would be great Head Movement...and...well we know Margarito doesn't uses much head movement, his defense is basically to eat your best punches then hit you with his best punches
                      Last edited by sicko; 08-27-2010, 10:08 PM.

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