Iole: "Pacquiao is de****able"

[Gino Ros]

Hmm. I believe not. Are we going to factor money involved in matters of principle. If he find it de****able, then don't support it.

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there is a different standard for media.

everybody thinks jeff dahmer is de****able but should they not report on it?

should they report on osama bin laden?

for media reporting is not supporting. you have to cover the news in your business.

[Khalid X]

@Gino Ros

Man I don't like the catchweight at all....never have, I just never brought up my feelings about it on NSB.

With that said, what's so bad about fighting Margarito? There have been fighters who have done worse things than him, and to top it off Lennox Lewis, HBO, Showtime and a lot of other big players in boxing went from commision to commission after Tyson was denied.....so they could make the fight happen.

I just don't get whats so bad about Margarito as an opponent selection. I know a lot of people will bring up Marquez but the only way that is a fair fight is if its at 135. That will not happen for obvious reasons.

Then some bring up Berto as being more deserving. How so when he has been a champ for 2 years and has only beaten one good fighter....while trying to cherry pick on JWW's.

Devon is too green. This is pretty obviously

The only other person I could see is Bradley but again Margarito is more accomplished than him and is a better fighter than him at 147 and above.

[Gino Ros]

@Gino Ros

Man I don't like the catchweight at all....never have, I just never brought up my feelings about it on NSB.

With that said, what's so bad about fighting Margarito? There have been fighters who have done worse things than him, and to top it off Lennox Lewis, HBO, Showtime and a lot of other big players in boxing went from commision to commission after Tyson was denied.....so they could make the fight happen.

I just don't get whats so bad about Margarito as an opponent selection. I know a lot of people will bring up Marquez but the only way that is a fair fight is if its at 135. That will not happen for obvious reasons.

Then some bring up Berto as being more deserving. How so when he has been a champ for 2 years and has only beaten one good fighter....while trying to cherry pick on JWW's.

Devon is too green. This is pretty obviously

The only other person I could see is Bradley but again Margarito is more accomplished than him and is a better fighter than him at 147 and above.

tyson fouled. he did not cheat and there is a difference.

you guys are making excuses for it and that is fine

williams is too skinny
martinez is too good looking
marquez drinks too much pee
alexander is too green
bradley looks too much like a turtle
berto is too haitian
mosley is too old.


once arum picked margrito i see many fans making excuses. it is ok.

you say that berto has only beat one good fighter in the past two years so i ask you what good fighters margarito has beat in the past two years.

[Squizz]

if only a certain someone had grown a pair, then we wouldn't have to see this farce of a fight

agree with iole

Yeah. You're right. If Manny had grown a pair and taken the random drug testing, we wouldn't have to see this fight. Manny's a cheater just like Margarito. He basically admitted it by not taking the tests.

[Khalid X]

tyson fouled. he did not cheat and there is a difference.

you guys are making excuses for it and that is fine

williams is too skinny
martinez is too good looking
marquez drinks too much pee
alexander is too green
bradley looks too much like a turtle
berto is too haitian
mosley is too old.


once arum picked margrito i see many fans making excuses. it is ok.

you say that berto has only beat one good fighter in the past two years so i ask you what good fighters margarito has beat in the past two years.

First of all

I want to see the Williams fight, I have mentioned this before. Also I want to see Marquez vs Pacquiao 3 but I have to realistic as do others. Manny is not going to 135 for Marquez, then back to 147 to face Floyd. Fighting Marquez at any weight above 135 is robbing this fight of any meaning he will have.

When I brought up Berto, I was referring to his stay at WW. He has had every opportunity to challenge himself but hasn't. He'd rather pick on JWW and when he finally got an opportunity to face a legit guy at that weight....he turned it down and took the money.

So how is he more deserving than Margarito when Tony took on everyone he could and fought some of the best at that weight class? Tony was suspended so he didn't have an opportunity, while Berto did and basically wasted his shot at positioning himself for a big money fight.


I guess I have never brought this up with you before because you obviously don't see why I'm against Pac vs Alexander or Pac vs Bradley in Nov. First of all, I would like to see those fights as well, but the problem is both guys are improving and I want Manny to fight them at their best.

I truly believe one of them will be streaking sometime next year, and that is when a fight with them should happen.....when they are peaking. It's the same thing with Khan and Mayweather. That could be a great fight also, but Khan needs a few more fights because he is still improving as well.

What,s crazy is even their teams know this, and the only reason Shaw is so vocal is because he wants to cash out at the expense of Tim Bradley.

[Gino Ros]

What,s crazy is even their teams know this, and the only reason Shaw is so vocal is because he wants to cash out at the expense of Tim Bradley.

manny and floyd are in there 30s now and they started at low weights.

they are natural featherweights or sfw. floyd had most his fights at sfw and those guys get old by 33 or 34. that is why everybody wants to fight them now because they know manny or floyd could get old over night. and then leave the sport.

margrito was suspended and did not do anything positive for more than two years. you guys can keep making excuses and that is fine.

i think that there are about seven fights better than margrito.

pacquiao-bradley is a more honorable fight than pacquiao-margrito. period.

that is how i feel

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[tesla_power]

there is a different standard for media.

everybody thinks jeff dahmer is de****able but should they not report on it?

should they report on osama bin laden?

for media reporting is not supporting. you have to cover the news in your business.

That is your stand I guess. But to me, it is no different when principle is involved. Media, IMO, gets away with a lot with that freedom of the press. But IMO, it is often abused. Media is very powerful and should also be held in the same standards when principles are involved.

If he will report about Pac after the fight but the contents are not about the fight but the politics behind, then that is consistent with this "de****able" premise. I don't mind this article at all. In fact find it good and consistent.

You can apply this to the Osama bin laden part. They find him de****able hence they are going to write everything ****ty about him... which is consistent.

[Prime 407]

It's funny how people seem to forget that Pac wanted to fight Margarito way back when he'd just defeated ODH, back when Marg was still this unstoppable punching machine and hadn't been KO'd by Mosley yet or found to be cheating.

[Gino Ros]

It's funny how people seem to forget that Pac wanted to fight Margarito way back when he'd just defeated ODH, back when Marg was still this unstoppable punching machine and hadn't been KO'd by Mosley yet or found to be cheating.

but tony isnt that same guy. so you adjust and change.

[$tate of Mind]

Iole is a *****.

Guess so.......