Comments Thread For: Mosley Breaks Down Why Mayweather-Pacquiao Fell Apart

[flint]

mosley is still bitter from the mayweather spankin

[BoxingGEN]

no he didnt. he accepted full testing then changed it to 30 days, then 24 days. then he wanted only 3 SCHEDULED blood test.

floyd offered 14 days and pac still walked away.

i suggest you read up on the first nego before you comment on the subject

My bad..he didn't agree first time..im hip on the whole thing i was talking about the 2nd negotiations just worded it wrong..but i see u dont let nothing slip by lol

[cortdawg25]

this was all predetermined!!!

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Originally Posted by cortdawg25
Did Top rank make a serious offer to Team Mayweather? Afterall, Arum hadn't even talked to a single member of Team Mayweather! Allegedly, he went through Ross greenburg for negotiations when greenburg is not a promotor nor an adviser for Mayweather. Nor is he looking out for Floyd's best interest so how is he be consulted with in regards to negotiations. It is hard to believe that the contract or contract negotiaiton is real, but simply a fairy tale....a fallacy construed by Top rank to sway the public and media into their favor. Top rank wants us to believe that Floyd is the hold up, that he is depriving the fans the fight of century! But hey, that is all just speculation and opinion. But these are the facts that led me to this specualtion and form these opinions.

Clottey fight in Dallas

Top rank making the clottey fight in dallas was the 1st move to side step a potential Floyd fight this year. 1st off, Arum knows that Floyd isn't fighting anywhere else but Vegas. So he develops a relationship with Jerry jones to land multiple fights at Dallas stadium. the 1st fight was with Clottey and the 2nd fight will be with Margarito who will most likely get his license renewed in Texas before any other commission. This way Arum can take advantage of the geography being close to Mexico and keeping all the $$$ in-house

there was an article on this very site where margarito stated Arum promised him pacquiao! now they may be scheduled for a fight for a vacant title at 154 which would be pacquaio's so-called 8th title in 8 different weight classes

Top Rank then got Cotto into position to become champ at 154 just after his loss to Pacquiao. How does Cotto get a title shot after taking a 1-sided loss...I'll tell you why , so that pacquiao can have shot at a so-called 8th title

Top rank was also pushing cotto and margarito has opponents for Pacquiao ever since the Mosley win. Arum even went so far to say that mosley would be floyd's toughest challenge because of his size and speed before floyd had agreed to fight Mosley

Top rank then states that their is gag order on the negotiations but continued to violate the so-called gag order every day for the last month. who states that their is a gag-order and then proceed to break the gag-order within the same statement

Then Arum states that the contract was agreed upon by all parties confirmed by golden Boy and it is awaiting Floyd's signature and then turns around last week and says that he talked to Ross Greenburg exclusively

next, he allegedly sends a contract to Team Mayweather with previous agreements that are no longer acceptable and have been publicly stated by mayweather that those agreements were null and void. And on top of that, he assessed a deadline to the best fighter of the world who genrates the most money, makes the most PPV sales, and generates the larger gate revenue in his fights in comparison to pacquiao. And nevermind in 41 fights Floyd has never lost or come close to losing, has been the best or 1 of the best since 99, and been the youngest fighters to achieve championships in multiple division while remaining undefeated and arum feels it is OK to place a pacquiao deadline on him. Top Rank does not call the shots, pacquiao does not call the shots, how dare they try and impose a deadline on this eras best fighter!

finally, once the pacquiao deadline has been given...Bob has continously pushed and rushed a decision from Team mayweather depsite the fight date being nov 13, 4 months away!!!!! And who decide nov 13, maybe Nov 13 is the only weekend that dallas is available during this NFL season. why all the urgency when the clottey fight was made in 2 mos? why nov 13th when you know floyd isn't fighting in dallas? This some BS by Arum!

ARUM WAS NEVER TRYING TO REALLY MAKE THIS FIGHT HAPPEN!!!

[DeadScared]

Old NEWS!!!

Wrong shane! Hello!!! When did you have your last update on this issue? That was the notion during the first negotiation .i.e. before your bout with Mayweather. Ouwsssh!! In which case we shouldn't be discussing that anymore. The second negotiation exposed Mayweather's fear of Pacquiao..so, END OF STORY.Period. Shouldn't we be talking about something else current????

[fcastro1]

Simple as this the fight didn't get made the second time around because the old 14 day deal was or probably wasn't accepted. When he clearly stated after fighting with Mosley the 14 days are gone 0 days get it done. The 2nd negotations probably happening but ending so quick because if he ain't accepting 0 days ain't nothing to talk about since u could have accepted 14 the first time. "I'm going on vacation, not thinkingboxing" its the summer I'm chilling..he didn't accept my term when I accepted his it ain't **** to talk about..maybe not the best thing to say but it not hard to understand..

thats what i hate about floyd fans they love to jump to conclusions without no proof, insight or anything just to defend your boy. You know everything you wrote there is not fact but speculation. Stop makung excuses for floyd, this is why its so easy for him to get away with **** because he has fans like you that defend everything.

[fcastro1]

there was no second time,once paccy said no to the test floyd turned his back on him.

that's when pac started throwing jabs again and saying he would agree to the two week gap AFTER floyd said No.He had his chance.

And he wants the dates of the tests.

He has to man up like shane and take the tests without the gap and without the dates.

what do you mean man up? answer this question why is 14 days not good enough now but was good enough in march? another question. Is Floyd trying to make this an easy negotiation or is he trying to make it difficult considering he has changed his position and denies negotiations took place?

You all know the truth but you wont admit it because you guys just love to ****ride floyd no matter what.

[The Big Dunn]

what do you mean man up? answer this question why is 14 days not good enough now but was good enough in march? another question. Is Floyd trying to make this an easy negotiation or is he trying to make it difficult considering he has changed his position and denies negotiations took place?

You all know the truth but you wont admit it because you guys just love to ****ride floyd no matter what.

answer this question why is 14 days not good enough now but was good enough in march?

Because Manny refused it in january. You should be asking him this question but instead you put it on floyd. Floyd agreed to the 14 day cutoff, Manny refused, floyd decided not to offer it as a compromise again. You ask this question 500 times and its the same answer each time.

Is Floyd trying to make this an easy negotiation or is he trying to make it difficult considering he has changed his position and denies negotiations took place?

In what sport or business do you know where you get a better offer after refusing the initial offer? I mean just stop acting ****** fcastro1 because you like manny.

[BoxingGEN]

thats what i hate about floyd fans they love to jump to conclusions without no proof, insight or anything just to defend your boy. You know everything you wrote there is not fact but speculation. Stop makung excuses for floyd, this is why its so easy for him to get away with **** because he has fans like you that defend everything.

lol what ever u say..the real facts will never get out until they actually fight so if anything everybody stating opinions..Pac didn't accept the deal first time..THAT WE DO KNOW!! Margarito said Arum promised him Pac in November and look the fight is almost signed..THAT WE DO KNOW!! So why promise a in-house fighter a deal with Pac when u know that the 2nd negotiations with Mayweather should be first thing..WHAT BOB DIDNT PROMISE IS THEY WOULD ACCEPT FLOYDS TERM WHEN HE CLEARLY ACCEPT EVERYTHING PAC WANTED..so get on with the fan boy **** and get off your ass and do something with your life..

[Chups]

again, floyd accept mannys demands but pac didnt do the same.

funny how when manny gives demands, its ok. but when floyd does it, its wrong.

you *******s are thick

Manny accepted that in be in Las Vegas rather than Dallas. Manny accepted that he called him out instead of just the promoters handling it. Manny accepted "Mayweather testing" but Mayweather demanded more.

[BoxingGEN]

Manny accepted that in be in Las Vegas rather than Dallas. Manny accepted that he called him out instead of just the promoters handling it. Manny accepted "Mayweather testing" but Mayweather demanded more.

He compromised the first time and was spit on..so he said 0 days like he wanted from jump..so did PAC agree to 0 days or not..we still havent heard his answer on that from his own mouth.