Floyd - Shane the MOVIE part II? ahhh, okay...
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Shane Mosley wants Floyd Mayweather Jr. Rematch; breaks down pacman/margarito
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I don't know if he should fight May again..I would like too see him get past Mora then fight a Cotto or Chavez or Angulo..Then TBH retire Mosley you've done enough.TBH same goes for Pac and May fight each other then call it a wrap let the young guns come up...
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Originally posted by purecyse View Postyou sound like a big fan. a whole post filled with bias. EPO was one of the drugs mosley was reported to have used. it does help with stamina.
he has danced around the subject but shane has never said he overtrained in any interview i've watched. i believe the lastest excuse was that his neck got stiff and he couldn't throw punches like he wanted.
the haitian earthquake was on the 12th of january. his fight with berto was canceled soon after, presumably, in the final stages of his training camp. with no opponent, he's allowed to take in easy in the gym (they say he's a gym rat) as the mayweather-pacquiao negotiations falter.
mayweather waits for pacquiao to announce his opponent before he begins searching for his own. allowing about 3 months of training camp, he picks mosley about the end of january/ beginning of february. it was said he turned around and got right back in the gym after the fight was signed so that would be sometime after his fight with berto was suppose to occur.
the overtraining excuse is hard to swallow because (1) neither shane mosley, nor his camp, have used it, (2) there has been no definite time table given for his training camps and (3) he was at the point of peak fitness/ winding down for the berto fight, reportedly stop training when it was canceled and had a good amount of time to rest before it was revealed that mayweather wanted to fight him at that time. so his fights would have been in january (1), may (5) and september (9). all around four months apart (the berto fight would have been later in january) but all allowing a complete camp.
ring rust? great fighters find a way to win, no? i thought mayweather actually looked sharper, defensively, after his LONG layoff in that jmm fight. it was his offense, which he isn't known for, which was off and people still said he should have knocked jmm out.
same situation here. shane spent months telling us how floyd knew what the deal was. how he was stronger and faster and etc., etc. yet all you have to show for it is one round and a right hand that won't land in a rematch.
people say it's hard "defending" floyd. you don't have to defend a winner as the numbers speak for themselves. it's you shane mosley fans that have it rough. losers have to find a reason why and, when a suitable one isn't given, his fans make one for him. and...draw? winky wright beat his butt that second time, too. mosley tried to flurry his way to a victory and they gave him a gift split decision.
floyd's fighting style is counter-punching and we now know that floyd, at least, punches hard enough to back mosley up. a more aggressive mosley just gets his ass beat another way. presumably, worse this time.i'll admit i was wrong there
im not making excuses for why he lost, floyd beat him fair and square and would probably beat a prime mosley too - i just think shane would do better in a rematch, like he did against winky and vernon? surely you can see why im saying that?
or maybe i'm just too big a fan lol
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Originally posted by SekondzOut View Postit seems like mommy and daddy failed to school some of you about the ***els of life....one ***el is, EVERYTHING happens for a reason....Shane's load was blown after the 2nd round....why?.....did any of the Einsteins here ever think that he could've over-trained?!?.....he was supposed to fight Berto and we all know the story from there....back to back camps can cause for a fighter to perform the way Shane did on May 1st.....but the Mosley fans are a minority around here and you can find at least 10 Floyd fans in ANY thread with at least 20-25 replies.....dont confuse excuse for fact, kids tend to make that mistake alot.....a rusty over-trained Shane Mosley ALMOST knocked a well trained Floyd Mayweather the **** out in 2.....yea, a RUSTY OVER-TRAINED Shane......still gotta give Floyd his props tho, he manned up and bought the fight right to Shane after he got rocked....I was impressed but I also know Shane had NOTHING to offer after the 2nd round.....if we could see it, then Floyd must've seen it as well because he was in the ring with him.....the fight went like ****m said it would go.....Shane punched him in the mouth and the dragon start spittin out fireballs
And do u think a trainer like nasim would allow his fighter to overtrain? This fight took so many years to happen for a reason. its obvious who avoided who. ssm cant box. he can fight but he aint no boxer. he lost becuz he is the inferior fighter oh and a fraud. I knw u love the guy and all but stop acting like these pacq/money fans. Get real.
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Originally posted by TheSurgeonMDMPH View PostDude get real. ssm is a talented fghter, no doubt at all. Has the rare combo of speed and power. But, he is one of the dumbest fighters I have ever seen. He came up bashing the typical mexican style, machismo fire fights. Each time he faced a fighter who didnt defend with their face, he lost.
And do u think a trainer like nasim would allow his fighter to overtrain? This fight took so many years to happen for a reason. its obvious who avoided who. ssm cant box. he can fight but he aint no boxer. he lost becuz he is the inferior fighter oh and a fraud. I knw u love the guy and all but stop acting like these pacq/money fans. Get real.
Pointless rematch imo. It would go the exact same way as the first fight. Shane shakes his hands like he got parkinsons, throws a bomb which Floyd see's coming and counters easy. Or Shane shakes his hands and while thinking about how to land, Floyds landed, weaved and avoided the punch that Shane was thinking about.....
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Originally posted by purecyse View Postyou sound like a big fan. a whole post filled with bias. EPO was one of the drugs mosley was reported to have used. it does help with stamina.
he has danced around the subject but shane has never said he overtrained in any interview i've watched. i believe the lastest excuse was that his neck got stiff and he couldn't throw punches like he wanted.
the haitian earthquake was on the 12th of january. his fight with berto was canceled soon after, presumably, in the final stages of his training camp. with no opponent, he's allowed to take in easy in the gym (they say he's a gym rat) as the mayweather-pacquiao negotiations falter.
mayweather waits for pacquiao to announce his opponent before he begins searching for his own. allowing about 3 months of training camp, he picks mosley about the end of january/ beginning of february. it was said he turned around and got right back in the gym after the fight was signed so that would be sometime after his fight with berto was suppose to occur.
the overtraining excuse is hard to swallow because (1) neither shane mosley, nor his camp, have used it, (2) there has been no definite time table given for his training camps and (3) he was at the point of peak fitness/ winding down for the berto fight, reportedly stop training when it was canceled and had a good amount of time to rest before it was revealed that mayweather wanted to fight him at that time. so his fights would have been in january (1), may (5) and september (9). all around four months apart (the berto fight would have been later in january) but all allowing a complete camp.
ring rust? great fighters find a way to win, no? i thought mayweather actually looked sharper, defensively, after his LONG layoff in that jmm fight. it was his offense, which he isn't known for, which was off and people still said he should have knocked jmm out.
same situation here. shane spent months telling us how floyd knew what the deal was. how he was stronger and faster and etc., etc. yet all you have to show for it is one round and a right hand that won't land in a rematch.
people say it's hard "defending" floyd. you don't have to defend a winner as the numbers speak for themselves. it's you shane mosley fans that have it rough. losers have to find a reason why and, when a suitable one isn't given, his fans make one for him. and...draw? winky wright beat his butt that second time, too. mosley tried to flurry his way to a victory and they gave him a gift split decision.
floyd's fighting style is counter-punching and we now know that floyd, at least, punches hard enough to back mosley up. a more aggressive mosley just gets his ass beat another way. presumably, worse this time.Originally posted by TheSurgeonMDMPH View PostDude get real. ssm is a talented fghter, no doubt at all. Has the rare combo of speed and power. But, he is one of the dumbest fighters I have ever seen. He came up bashing the typical mexican style, machismo fire fights. Each time he faced a fighter who didnt defend with their face, he lost.
And do u think a trainer like nasim would allow his fighter to overtrain? This fight took so many years to happen for a reason. its obvious who avoided who. ssm cant box. he can fight but he aint no boxer. he lost becuz he is the inferior fighter oh and a fraud. I knw u love the guy and all but stop acting like these pacq/money fans. Get real.
Thank you................Unlimited green on the way.
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Till this day I find something fishy with that fight. How do u nearly decapitate your opponent in the second round, then forget how to fight there on after. Yes Floyd made adjustments, but not to the extent where Mosley should have completely stopped throwing punches the way he did.
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