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  • #21
    Originally posted by ts33 View Post
    GTFOH

    Lack of steroids doesn't tire out an ATHLETE in 2 rounds (and nothing happened in the first round). However being overtrained and ring rust can do


    **** off with the ring rust and overtrained excuses those are lame excuses, I didnt hear that before the fight, All we heard was Mayweather would never fight Mosley and how he was scared to fight him, Fact is Mosley is a drug cheat.. I didnt say anything about steroids so i dont know why you're getting sensitive like a female.. I said drugs because most boxers are on something.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Ray* View Post
      **** off with the ring rust and overtrained excuses those are lame excuses, I didnt hear that before the fight, All we heard was Mayweather would never fight Mosley and how he was scared to fight him, Fact is Mosley is a drug cheat.. I didnt say anything about steroids so i dont know why you're getting sensitive like a female.. I said drugs because most boxers are on something.
      Lot's of people were saying it! Everytime the fight was discussed people would mention Shanes age and the layoff. It's not an excuse, its a FACT. Why don't you try and argue why they weren't factors instead of saying theyre lame excuses?

      Originally posted by Ray* View Post
      I didnt say anything about steroids so i dont know why you're getting sensitive like a female
      Funny guy

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      • #23
        Originally posted by ts33 View Post
        Lot's of people were saying it! Everytime the fight was discussed people would mention Shanes age and the layoff. It's not an excuse, its a FACT. Why don't you try and argue why they weren't factors instead of saying theyre lame excuses?



        Funny guy
        I go by facts and nothing else, The fight happened because of Mosley's status and the fact that people wanted the fight to happen, The rest is excuses to me, If Mayweather didnt fight Mosley in May we would still be here talking about how Mosley was ducked no one would say anything about Mosley been 38 or 39 etc.

        I said back in september 2009 that if Mayweather fight Mosley the excuse would be Mosley was old and that exactly what happen, I dont care if fighter overtrain or ring rust the same applies to both fighters, When you get in the ring NO EXCUSES....Period.

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        • #24
          Ahhh, so Mosley is probably Mayweather's opponent for December. Sounds about right.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Ray* View Post
            I go by facts and nothing else, The fight happened because of Mosley's status and the fact that people wanted the fight to happen, The rest is excuses to me, If Mayweather didnt fight Mosley in May we would still be here talking about how Mosley was ducked no one would say anything about Mosley been 38 or 39 etc.

            I said back in september 2009 that if Mayweather fight Mosley the excuse would be Mosley was old and that exactly what happen, I dont care if fighter overtrain or ring rust the same applies to both fighters, When you get in the ring NO EXCUSES....Period.
            Right, you go by the facts, but mosleys layoff and the back to back training camps (both facts) don't mean anything to you?

            Originally posted by Ray* View Post
            I said back in september 2009 that if Mayweather fight Mosley the excuse would be Mosley was old and that exactly what happen, I dont care if fighter overtrain or ring rust the same applies to both fighters, When you get in the ring NO EXCUSES....Period.
            So Floyd had back to back training camps as well?

            look, i give Floyd a lot of credit for beating shane the way he did, but im saying a rematch would be a lot more competitive because of the two factors ive mentioned (ringrust from the layoff, and back to back camps NOT AGE)

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            • #26
              Originally posted by IlostMyAccount View Post
              If Mora beats Mosley, does that ruin Mayweather Jr.'s win over Mosley or was it that Floyd ruined Mosley and that Mosley's age wasn't a factor at all?
              depends on how he beats him, if mora goes in there and dominates mosley i think it does. if its a competetive fight it takes away a bit of the luster from floyds fight but not all of it. mora is a good fighter after all. if shane beats him or even knocks him out it shows he wasnt quite as past his prime as ppl make him out to be, we all know hes past his best but mora is world class and it takes a game guy to beat him.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by ts33 View Post
                GTFOH

                Lack of steroids doesn't tire out an ATHLETE in 2 rounds (and nothing happened in the first round). However being overtrained and ring rust can do



                EXACTLY. I think shane would do a hell of a lot better in a rematch. i mean look at the rematches with Wright and Forrest - he fought very well, and arguably could have gotten a draw. and those two have much better jabs than Floyd.

                If Shane looks good we'll have idiots saying it was Floyds briliance or Mosley is on steroids again. I mean look at the facts, two back to back training camps and a 18 month layoff - were you really expecting the same guy who came out against marg?

                I'd love a rematch, much better than Floyd-Berto or something on that level
                you sound like a big fan. a whole post filled with bias. EPO was one of the drugs mosley was reported to have used. it does help with stamina.

                he has danced around the subject but shane has never said he overtrained in any interview i've watched. i believe the lastest excuse was that his neck got stiff and he couldn't throw punches like he wanted.

                the haitian earthquake was on the 12th of january. his fight with berto was canceled soon after, presumably, in the final stages of his training camp. with no opponent, he's allowed to take in easy in the gym (they say he's a gym rat) as the mayweather-pacquiao negotiations falter.

                mayweather waits for pacquiao to announce his opponent before he begins searching for his own. allowing about 3 months of training camp, he picks mosley about the end of january/ beginning of february. it was said he turned around and got right back in the gym after the fight was signed so that would be sometime after his fight with berto was suppose to occur.

                the overtraining excuse is hard to swallow because (1) neither shane mosley, nor his camp, have used it, (2) there has been no definite time table given for his training camps and (3) he was at the point of peak fitness/ winding down for the berto fight, reportedly stop training when it was canceled and had a good amount of time to rest before it was revealed that mayweather wanted to fight him at that time. so his fights would have been in january (1), may (5) and september (9). all around four months apart (the berto fight would have been later in january) but all allowing a complete camp.

                ring rust? great fighters find a way to win, no? i thought mayweather actually looked sharper, defensively, after his LONG layoff in that jmm fight. it was his offense, which he isn't known for, which was off and people still said he should have knocked jmm out.

                same situation here. shane spent months telling us how floyd knew what the deal was. how he was stronger and faster and etc., etc. yet all you have to show for it is one round and a right hand that won't land in a rematch.

                people say it's hard "defending" floyd. you don't have to defend a winner as the numbers speak for themselves. it's you shane mosley fans that have it rough. losers have to find a reason why and, when a suitable one isn't given, his fans make one for him. and...draw? winky wright beat his butt that second time, too. mosley tried to flurry his way to a victory and they gave him a gift split decision.

                floyd's fighting style is counter-punching and we now know that floyd, at least, punches hard enough to back mosley up. a more aggressive mosley just gets his ass beat another way. presumably, worse this time.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by ThunderWolf View Post
                  What rematch,the guy only won 1 minute of a 12 round fight

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by deanrw View Post
                    You read it wrong Mark. He wants a rematch of the 2nd round again!! Just Kidding

                    The only thing his fight with Floyd proved to me is that he is old and he lost his edge. He was not competitive at all. All he had was two good punches in a 5 second window.
                    how old can he be? he destroyed margarito last year and now many people are saying that margarito can beat manny.

                    if a old mosley destroyed margarito then manny shld not fight margarito

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                    • #30
                      If Mosley went at Floyd more aggressive like he says he would he would get stopped by the ref I am sure. Shane thinks he could have got the knockout but to be honest the way Floyd dominated him showed that any KO victory for Shane would be a fluke and Mayweather is just above his league skillswise and without a KO, Shane gets beaten comfortably....just like in his rematches with Vernon and Winky.

                      Cotto is who he should be rematching

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