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  • Rome-By-Ko
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    #41
    Originally posted by Demise
    Of course Taylor was in the fight, but Abraham was clearly winning. Froch did not box effectively against Dirrell.

    The Froch-Dirrell fight had nothing in it. A lot of Froch missing though and him flailing around with his awkward jab.

    Froch relies on a few things;

    - Punch accumulation
    - Punch resistance
    - Stamina

    Kessler took away his stamina and beat him.
    Dirrell used movement and speed to negate Froch landing a lot of punches.

    Carl Froch does not outbox opponents, he outworks them.
    Can't argue about the Kessler fight cause you are right Froch did not look him self in that fight TBH...But Froch was out landing Dirrell in that fight Dirrell was hitting air with his jab something like Devon did in the Kottie fight..

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      #42
      Originally posted by romebyko
      It's funny too me how you say all this crap about Froch look at the names you just named...Now go and check out AA's last 3 to 4 fights it does not even compare...He was getting out boxed by a highly motivated Taylor not the Taylor AA faced after being KO'd by who oh yea Froch...Dirrell did not win that fight and the people who feel he did needs to understand the difference of boxing and running..Kessler I had Froch winning that fight and speaking about being punished go back watch the end of the fight faces don't lie,who's face took more punishment???Pascal was clearly beat by Froch and he is the LHW champ.Did you say less then stellar??Ummm so AA's competition must be down right pathetic....
      Pascal fought Froch's game, he got dragged into a brawl and was outworked. I look at Froch's resume and I see;

      - A loss to Kessler.

      - A controversial split decision over Dirrell. The fight was shit, it had no moments of excitement. The best thing that happened was Froch slamming Dirrell on the floor.

      - A 12th round stoppage of Taylor who had Froch down in the third and was ahead by 4 pts.


      You have Froch winning the Dirrell and Kessler fight, you're obviously somewhat biased.

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        #43
        Originally posted by romebyko
        Can't argue about the Kessler fight cause you are right Froch did not look him self in that fight TBH...But Froch was out landing Dirrell in that fight Dirrell was hitting air with his jab something like Devon did in the Kottie fight..
        I'm pretty sure Dirrell out landed Froch.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Demise
          Pascal fought Froch's game, he got dragged into a brawl and was outworked. I look at Froch's resume and I see;

          - A loss to Kessler.

          - A controversial split decision over Dirrell. The fight was shit, it had no moments of excitement. The best thing that happened was Froch slamming Dirrell on the floor.

          - A 12th round stoppage of Taylor who had Froch down in the third and was ahead by 4 pts.


          You have Froch winning the Dirrell and Kessler fight, you're obviously somewhat biased.
          Nope not bias at all.I do like Froch,but if I was bias I would have argued that Froch was robbed by Kessler and was winning on the cards vs Taylor...But truth be told the Kessler fight was a close one that could have went either way IMO.Taylor was winning on the cards before being stopped..But most of his fights was exciting nobody has ever looked good against Froch either(can't say the same for AA)I have to go to work hopefully we can chat again..But I'll leave you with this,AA is this big puncher right how do we know what he could do at 168lb?He has never KO'd a 168lb fighter..Remember Taylor was not only coming off a KO loss but he also is a natural 160lb fighter.IMO Froch has answered more questions then AA.Oh yea can you read off AA resume?Since you like reading off resumes and lets hear your breakdown of it..lets see if your un bias.

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            #45
            Originally posted by romebyko
            Nope not bias at all.I do like Froch,but if I was bias I would have argued that Froch was robbed by Kessler and was winning on the cards vs Taylor...But truth be told the Kessler fight was a close one that could have went either way IMO.Taylor was winning on the cards before being stopped..But most of his fights was exciting nobody has ever looked good against Froch either(can't say the same for AA)I have to go to work hopefully we can chat again..But I'll leave you with this,AA is this big puncher right how do we know what he could do at 168lb?He has never KO'd a 168lb fighter..Remember Taylor was not only coming off a KO loss but he also is a natural 160lb fighter.IMO Froch has answered more questions then AA.Oh yea can you read off AA resume?Since you like reading off resumes and lets hear your breakdown of it..lets see if your un bias.
            Well there isn't much point in doing a few of the most recent fights on Abraham's resume seeing as the majority are at 160 lbs.

            Dirrell vs Abraham;

            Dirrell had this won if he could keep up his concentration. Abraham was never going to outbox Dirrell who's much faster and can use his movement to push Abraham around. Abraham waited too long to go on the attack and when he did he just came forward with his hands up, while Dirrell moved around using his jab to stop Abraham setting up attacks.


            When he fought Taylor he was clearly winning the fight, there might have been a few pts in it but Abraham was clearly the victor. The fact he managed to stop Taylor in the 12th doesn't matter. Unlike Froch who needed knockdowns or a stoppage to win.

            Forget about competition though.

            Look at the fact that Froch is a brawler, he is not flashy and his boxing skills are often neglected. His lack of defense is countered by the fact he has good punch resistance. Although in recent fights he has been hurt.

            Both are pretty limited.

            Abraham doesn't really have an offense when he's in that shell, he just absorbs the punishment. Froch's defense just isn't there, he dodges and slips a few punches but he's relying on that chin of his just a little too much.

            Froch will trade with Abraham, they will go to war with each other. Abraham does have the better power, Froch does have power but more down to accumulation than one punch. In the scenario that both fighters do start throwing, I'd favour Abraham.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Demise
              It's a shame Abraham is going to send Froch to sleep.
              And then he can tell his kids in the future that he was a former middleweight and super middleweight champ, even if he loses the final!
              The final will be big, it will be either Abraham vs. Direll or Abraham vs. Ward! So the most realistic final will be Abraham vs. Ward.
              But i hope Direll beats Ward and Abraham gets the rematch with Direll. Both scenarios would be verry verry tough and Abraham has to improve some more to win it. And the young guns Direll and Ward might also improve! Its funny, when the tournament was made and the fighters were signed, the two american greenhorns were seen as the big underdogs in the tournament, but now they are the favourites!
              Last edited by Tobi.G; 08-25-2010, 01:58 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by Tom Jones
                Shut up.

                Dirrell beat froch and so did Kessler. Froch should have 2 L not just the one.
                Nope.


                The Kessler fight was close as hell and the decision was arguable.

                I scored it for Kessler live, but scored the video 4 times, 2 draws, 2 narrow 1 point Froch wins. Very close fight.


                So the results cancel each other out.





                Take your head out of Joe's ass and start appreciating.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Demise
                  Pascal fought Froch's game, he got dragged into a brawl and was outworked. I look at Froch's resume and I see;

                  - A loss to Kessler.

                  - A controversial split decision over Dirrell. The fight was shit, it had no moments of excitement. The best thing that happened was Froch slamming Dirrell on the floor.

                  - A 12th round stoppage of Taylor who had Froch down in the third and was ahead by 4 pts.


                  You have Froch winning the Dirrell and Kessler fight, you're obviously somewhat biased.
                  You don't like Froch, so what makes your opinion unbiased?

                  Kessler - Froch was a close fight that could've gone either way. Lot of people ringside had Froch winning that fight.

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                    #49
                    If Froch wins the tourney, then LOL.

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                    • D-MiZe
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Chunk
                      You don't like Froch, so what makes your opinion unbiased?

                      Kessler - Froch was a close fight that could've gone either way. Lot of people ringside had Froch winning that fight.
                      Why are you assuming I don't like Froch?

                      The guy is entertaining to watch and he's a warrior.

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