Comments Thread For: Top Boxers, MMA Fighters Predict Couture vs. Toney Bout

[Gorilla Dogs]

The thing is Kimbo could do more than just punch and Kimbo got cut from the UFC so what are you talking about? He wasn't good enough for the UFC and his strength was punching with a bit of a ground game. I agree with you a boxer could win in the UFC....with year and years of ground defense training. But 9 months isn't enough 2 years isnt enough especially against an Olyimpic level wrestler.

Be realistic when people say he has a punchers chance it's just a nice way of saying he has virtually no chance.

he can do more than just punch? you dont think toney is training in other stuff too?

keep hating boy. put the klitschkos in the octogon with randy and randy quits after one shot to the body. bank on it son

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he can do more than just punch? you dont think toney is training in other stuff too?

keep hating boy. put the klitschkos in the octogon with randy and randy quits after one shot to the body. bank on it son

You don't see how ****** you sound when all you can muster up is this lame prediction of just one shot? Anyone who puts faith in just landing "one" shot is basically saying that Tony is gonna win by a miricle punch. LOL thats just ******!


And training other stuff? Hes been doing that other stuff for 9 month Randy and every other MMA fighter has been doing that other stuff for years and years and years.


Seriously dude use common ***ing sense. It's like a basketball player jumping into Football.

[prinzemanspopa]

How are they glass jaws? Do boxers have to take Kicks and elbows to the face? Do boxers fight with 4 OZ gloves? No! Seriously dude your theory is ***ing ******!

And if watching 2 men grapple on the ground pounding each others face in makes you think of ****sexual sex then maybe its you who might be gay.

When one minute knockouts are a common theme at a supposedly "world class" level,you know a glass jaw is involved.These one punch,first round knockouts should never be common at a world class level.

Even Ricardo Mayorga rocked Din Thomas badly with a simple backhand


You ask the average person on the street,and they'll tell you: "two grown men rolling around on the ground is not normal."

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When one minute knockouts are a common theme at a supposedly "world class" level,you know a glass jaw is involved.These one punch,first round knockouts should never be common at a world class level.

Even Ricardo Mayorga rocked Din Thomas badly with a simple backhand


You ask the average person on the street,and they'll tell you: "two grown men rolling around on the ground is not normal."

And where have you gotten these statistics from? Please show me where you got them from or did you just watch some UFC highlights and said oh they have glass jaws. Seriously I would like you to provide me with actual statistical evidence that UFC fighters have weaker jaws than boxers instead of making ****t up.


Oh and wrestling is over 2 thousand years old. The Greeks and Romans taught it to their soldiers to protect themselves when unarmed on the battle field.

Yeah it's pretty normal and you are just a closet ****sexual.

[Gorilla Dogs]

most ppl dont know **** about mma.........

[krimzon]

When one minute knockouts are a common theme at a supposedly "world class" level,you know a glass jaw is involved.These one punch,first round knockouts should never be common at a world class level.

Even Ricardo Mayorga rocked Din Thomas badly with a simple backhand


You ask the average person on the street,and they'll tell you: "two grown men rolling around on the ground is not normal."

you seem very closed minded and very much set in your thinking, but i will try to logically converse with you.

Simply because certain competition is considered "world class" does not mean that two competitors must go tooth and nail, back and forth until the end of regulation. World class simply means that the athletes have attained an extremely high level of proficiency in their profession.

It is very difficult to train ones jaw to take damage and the propensity for it to take damage decreases with time. Therefore, it is quite possible for someone to be world class but get knocked out within the first round.

Also, have you considered the reverse? Perhaps it is not so much that all MMA fighters have glass jaws (like you proposed), but perhaps it's due to them having more tools in their arsenal (Head kicks, Knees) and that they may strike with more power than your typical boxer? The usage of the smaller 4oz gloves would compound this effect and support this notion.

Lastly, it is not fair to arbitrarily compare first round knockouts between different sports. This is a flawed thinking because rounds are not even measured the same way between boxing and mma. In the PrideFC promotion in Japan during the early 2000s, first rounds were 10 minutes long. This equates to 3 and a third rounds in boxing with no resting periods in between. Since the fighters are fighting for such a prolonged period without rest, it makes sense that there would be more KOs in the first round than boxing. Therefore gauging skill of an entire sport by the amount of first round knockouts is silly.

On that point, even the way in which knockouts are measured across both sports differ in some fundamental ways. In MMA, when a fighter gets dropped, his opponent has full rights to rush his opponent with repeated strikes until the referee interferes and calls the fight. However in boxing, when a boxer is down he can rise back up for the count and drain time. This positively skews the time it takes for knockouts in boxing to occur relative to mma. You can't compare statistics that are measured differently.

Two grown men rolling around is not normal but look at it from a different context, wrestling is a sport recognized by the olympics and so is judo. These are grappling arts, two men often engage in what appears to be "rolling around" to the untrained eye. However, it is actually a competition which requires tremendous skill in terms of using leverage and core strength to control and/or throw the opponent. MMA is the culmination of these grappling arts along with striking arts such as boxing, kickboxing and karate.

[Forza]

Yup 2 grown men in tight pants laying on eachother on national TV is normal...........................................i n san fransico

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Yup 2 grown men in tight pants laying on eachother on national TV is normal...........................................i n san fransico

And only someone who is uncomfortable with their own sexuality would think that.


How does it feel to be an obvious closet ****sexual?

[Drunk Punch]

I see a very short fight. Toney swings a few at Couture who ducks underneath, grabs his legs bringing him to the ground for a submission. That is, unless Couture has been given orders to stand and trade for a at least the first minute or two (like Kimbo's opponents).

I don't think it will prove anything either way other than that boxing and MMA are two different sports. They don't need to feel threatened by one another and there should be a feeling of mutual respect between boxers and mma'ers...

[Forza]

And only someone who is uncomfortable with their own sexuality would think that.


How does it feel to be an obvious closet ****sexual?

I'm not the one who pays to watch guys lay on eachother, maybe you should ask yourself that question.

I'm a fan of fighting. Guys kicking eachother in the nuts and ground humping isn't fighting. It's toned down gay ****o.