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  • BIGPOPPAPUMP
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    Comments Thread For: “Fighting Words” - Berto-nomics: Consequences of Inflation

    by David P. Greisman - Sometimes being good ain’t good enough. And sometimes the promise of big money ain’t big enough.

    This is the conundrum of welterweight beltholder Andre Berto.

    He is good enough to have a world title, but he has not yet beaten competition that would prove he belongs among those at the top of the division.

    He is a big enough star to get paid well, but he is not yet notable enough to get the important fights he needs.

    He is notable enough to be on the verge of breaking through, but he believes he is more of a star than he truly is and wants to get paid more.

    That belief is what could keep him from breaking through, from getting that fight that would insert him among the top names at 147 pounds.

    That recognition would get him the big fights.

    That ability to get the big fights would get him the big money.

    These are the calculations Andre Berto must make. These are decisions that are the consequences of inflation – an inflated standing perpetuated by HBO, resulting in an inflated sense of worth from Berto.

    This is how Berto got to where he is now:

    Berto turned pro at the end of 2004, a former Olympian seeing whether his speed would translate into success beyond amateur competition. He took the usual route for prospects with potential, fighting on Showtime’s “ShoBox: The New Generation” and ESPN2’s “Friday Night Fights.” [Click Here To Read More]
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    upinurgirlsguts
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    HBO is spoiling the **** out of these kids. Berto is no where near worth 600-800K. He doesn't bring in that kind of revenue. Even Angulo shouldnt be offered motha****in 750,000. Thats ridiculous.

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    • flipbjefrox
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      #3
      knock knock
      who's there?
      Luis?
      Luis Who?
      Luis Collazo
      He's waiting for you berto

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      • antrob
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        #4
        I can accept a Mike Jones fight for Berto, but if his next fight is against a Junior welterweight I'm done with HBO.

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        • Evil Abed
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          #5
          Originally posted by antrob
          I can accept a Mike Jones fight for Berto, but if his next fight is against a Junior welterweight I'm done with HBO.
          Until he decides to fight again I could care less about Berto.

          His strategy on getting fights is worse then Rudy Giuliani's strategy to win the last election.

          I guess Berto will wait it out until Florida and go all in.

          I'm tired so use your imagination for the analogy.

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          • -Kev-
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            #6
            Originally posted by flipbjefrox
            knock knock
            who's there?
            Luis?
            Luis Who?
            Luis Collazo
            He's waiting for you berto
            *Berto opens the door, Collazo prices himself out by asking for more than what HBO was willing to give him*

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            • vercingetorix3
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              #7
              Mike Jones versus Andre Berto, make it happen, HBO!

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              • vrodz
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                Berto is just anaverage fighter. He lost to Collazo and was loosing to Uintana before Quintana gava away that fight by camping out on the ropes and letting Berto teeoff on him. HBO has done an exelent job overpaying fighters that do not desrve it.

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                • Lorily
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                  Well stated piece on Berto. "... but he believes he is more of a star than he truly is and wants to get paid more." (Bravo!) It seems to be the up and coming theme with prospects turned contenders like Berto and Kahn. Rather than make a legitamate name for themselves and take a fight for perhaps a lesser cut (such as against Mosely - which btw Berto was ok w/a 60-40 cut 6 months earlier), Berto has the gall to say Moselys stock went down and believes his own went up after what I believe to be a lackluster win against Quintana. In these more than not situations, they end up making NO money rather than going in and proving their worth and giving the guy who has actually earned his respect the higher pay. THAT's what actually makes these guys a "legend in their own minds".
                  Regarding Teddy Atlas... it's not so much the "...makes peanut butter sandwiches without the jelly" statements as it is the endless short story analogies and hypothetical blah-blah-blahs that would be slightly comical if not beaten to death more often than not. It's "First, he needs to get out the peanut butter. Then he needs to decide if he's going to use the jelly, and if so what kind? Is it going to be g**** or strawberry? If he decides on the g****, he should use a good layer so as to pad the peanut butter nicely. If he goes with strawberry, it should be thin so it doesn't overpower the peanut butter. Now, if he's gonna have a peanut butter AND jelly sandwich, he's surely gonna need a glass of milk to go with it".............. He gets so wrapped up in that crap that he's talking right through some incredible action. As I've told you before, FNF is turning in to more of the "Teddy Atlas Show", where mute and fast forward have become a blessed feature.
                  So Teddy, if you're reading this and you disagree, feel free to PM me. I need some advice on what kind of bread to use.

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                  • joe strong
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                    #10
                    berto needs to fight better opposition.the haiti situation was terrible but that cancellation with mosley may really come back to haunt him

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