Why does Pacquiao want to know the dates when he will be tested?

[Alibata]

You know I don't.The point is be careful when the media attacks the messenger rather than the message. If they had just listened to Canseco baseball would be in a better place and you can't deny it. Call Roger and Floyd Sr. anything you want but make SURE they are wrong first!

First off canseco was an admitted user who went public. Roger is an accuser with an agenda, big difference.

[Alibata]

But ESPN isn't non biased. They broadcast boxing. It is in their best interest that the sport not be tainted. That was why they all cam down on Canseco. can't you see that.

Why is coming down on Floyd better than coming down on Manny. Maybe it is because they weigh both sides and see Manny as the more credible. There was a time when ESPN was on Floyd's side before Greenburg came in the picture. I doubt ESPN wants to put their rep on the line for one guy without weighing the evidence.

[The Big Dunn]

First off canseco was an admitted user who went public. Roger is an accuser with an agenda, big difference.

Roger also has the same level of inside info as Jose does. Look, I'm not saying he is right. I'm saying you can't say he is wrong because of who he is.

[Alibata]

Roger also has the same level of inside info as Jose does. Look, I'm not saying he is right. I'm saying you can't say he is wrong because of who he is.

Nope... Jose admitted he used, not only that but supplied other players and new other players who used... Roger only suspects without any evidence of any sort. One speculates while the other was actually involved.

[The Big Dunn]

Why is coming down on Floyd better than coming down on Manny. Maybe it is because they weigh both sides and see Manny as the more credible. There was a time when ESPN was on Floyd's side before Greenburg came in the picture. I doubt ESPN wants to put their rep on the line for one guy without weighing the evidence.

Its not about sides its about facts. Floyd being a coward or a ducker is an OPINION!! Manny refusing to take tests is a FACT!!! ESPN used their opinions of Jose to refute his facts. And they got burned!

All I'm saying is ESPN, FOX, HBO etc. talking heads in the mainstream media can have any opinion of floyd and/or roger they want. But when they use who someone is as a way to invalidate the evidence that raises a flag for me.

[Sombras]

Nope... Jose admitted he used, not only that but supplied other players and new other players... Roger only suspects without any evidence of any sort.

Is that all you pinoys do? Defend Pacquiao all the damm time? No wonder, You guys don't know sh-t about boxing other than Manny.

[Alibata]

Is that all you pinoys do? Defend Pacquiao all the damm time? No wonder, You guys don't know sh-t about boxing other than Manny.

I was on these boards before Manny was famous before you. Check the date idiot

[IMDAZED]

Nope... Jose admitted he used, not only that but supplied other players and new other players... Roger only suspects without any evidence of any sort.

Jose accused people he wasn't sure had used but suspected. So STFU.

[The Big Dunn]

Nope... Jose admitted he used, not only that but supplied other players and new other players who used... Roger only suspects without any evidence of any sort. One speculates while the other was actually involved.

This is where we can truly debate this. Roger cites Manny's ko's and growth as "evidence". Is that enough for you? No. When Barrry Bonds hit 70 HRS and his head got bigger that was also "evidence". just like Manny he had never tested positive.

When ever an athletes likeability or popularity can factor into what "evidence" is that is a huge problem. If ESPN holds Manny to the same standard they held BOnds, APPEARANCE AND PERFORMANCE, they would almost surely say he is gulity. Do you agree?

[Twako]

Look man I don't care if you dream about Manny, love him, hes your favorite its all good with me. But you know he went out like a b!tch. I don't expect you or treason1, chingas, brick wall. pistol whip, gwerty pacdbest, twako, pasawakyo or any other Manny disciple to admit it. Its cool with me.

When you guys get in the Pinoy lounge and me and other floyd fans are not around I'm sure it bothers you. Say what you want, but it appears Bob/Manny did EXACTLY what King/Valuev did with Klitchko. To paraphrase Cannibus:

Thats a b!tch move, something a **** boxer would do!

wow i didnt know you daydream about me everyday. forums affecting you much? you probably need a 'vacation'?