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  • DLT
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    Winky vs Floyd is Off?

    1st let me say that this will probally make it look like Floyd was scared and just running his mouth and thats what this reporter also implied in this story but I disagree. They say the deal fell apart because Floyd changed his mind from a 50/50 split to a 55/45 split. Am I the only one who thinks that is still a great offer? Really Floyd should get 60/40. Floyd isnt a big name but he's bigger then Winky and he's the one taking all the risk. He should probally still be at 135 and he's going to move up 2 classes to fight the other best fighter in the world after just 3 fights at 140 and Winky coming down from 160? There is no way Floyd should do this fight for 50/50. I think 55/45 is very generous and if Winky doesnt accept that then he's the punk. I just dont understand why Arum agreed to 50/50 in the 1st place.
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    Promoters Gary Shaw and Bob Arum were in Beverly Hills on Thursday afternoon to officially announce the October 8th rematch between Diego Corrales and Jose Luis Castillo.

    But as that deal was finalized, a proposed November 12th bout between Winky Wright and Floyd Mayweather fell apart as the two met at the Beverly Hills Hotel.

    " M-O-N-E-Y," stated Shaw in spelling out the reason why this bout between two of the premier prizefighters in the world will not be taking place. "I thought we had a deal, I spoke with Don King, King was on board, Jim Wilkes was on board, Winky Wright was on board. We agreed to 154 pounds, we agreed to
    another morning weight because they were concerned about the weight - Winky couldn't gain more than eight pounds above 154."

    With all of Winky's representatives (including King, who holds an option on Wright after his victory over Felix Trinidad in May) in agreement, Shaw thought he
    would be signing contracts by the end of the week.

    "When I was in Arum's office he talked about different splits," recalled Shaw, who said at that time the numbers he was told differed from the ones he had agreed to. "I started to yell, I said, 'It's gotta be 50-50.' He said, 'Alright, alright. Why are you yelling? I'm just the messenger. Come back, we'll do the deal.' I walked downstairs here at the Beverly Hills Hotel, I said, 'We have a deal?' He looked at me and said, '55-45'. I said, 'No, 50-50. He said, 'There's no deal.'"

    Arum confirmed that Wright-Mayweather is dead as of now.

    "There were requests made by Floyd Mayweather, we laid it out and I think they were fair requests," said the veteran promoter. "Gary rejected them, so there's no fight. We have to sit with Floyd and we'll figure out (what we do next). Maybe Margarito. It's unfortunate as far as the Winky Wright fight, but it's not going to happen."

    While Mayweather retains his November 12th date on HBO Pay-Per-View, Wright has a date set aside for him the following week on HBO.

    Did Mayweather and Arum come to the realization that in facing the much bigger Wright, that they were biting off more than even the 'Pretty Boy' could chew off?

    "Floyd's been talking a lot of trash, saying he's going to knock Winky out; he told Kevin Iole he wants to fight," said Shaw. "He wanted the fight on Sunday. On Monday I went to Top Rank's office personally. My feeling is that Floyd never wanted the fight. He was just talking smack."

    As Shaw and Arum gave their sides of the story after the Corrales-Castillo press conference, just outside the ballroom where it was held, Margarito's manager Sergio Diaz was meeting with Top Rank's V.P. Todd DuBoef about his fighter's future - which doesn't seem to include Mayweather.

    "Right now we just met with Todd and we're looking at October 1st," he explained to MaxBoxing. "The date is there, the opponent we still don't know. They've been mentioning Joshua Clottey, but Showtime doesn't know if they want to accept that opponent."

    As for a bout with Mayweather?

    "Mayweather has mentioned that he'd rather jump to 154 and fight Winky Wright than fight Margarito," Diaz said. "He says it's a better loss to lose against Winky Wright than it is to Antonio."

    Diaz doesn't have much hope that even with the Wright fight not happening, that a bout between Margarito and Mayweather comes to fruition.

    "No, not at all," he admitted. "To tell you the truth, at the beginning I was, we were hopeful it would happen. But now, it's already behind me."
    Last edited by DLT; 07-21-2005, 06:37 PM.
  • Truth
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    #2
    Thats the end of that... like Wu-Tang clan said cash rules everything around me.

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    • Memorex
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      #3
      i dont think it was ever gonna happen , i would rather see floyd and zab go at it

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      • TyrantT316
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        #4
        well it was fun while it lasted kids!

        good day...

        move on

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        • {BrownBomber}
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          #5
          Good maybe they will Margarito a chance, even if he losses I think he will put out a good effort.

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          • fatpom
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            #6
            This is about as surprising as the sun coming up this morning.

            Please allow me to quote an extremly knowledgeable post from a tremendous guy in the "Everyone should follow suit" thread" regarding this fight.

            Floyd v Wright will not happen. Not this year, not next year. Most probably not ever. Wright has far bigger fish to fry frankly.
            Hmmm, I wonder who said that? Someone should send some Kharma his way.


            Floyd has spent far too much time in the Roy Jones school of negotiations. Now he wants Margarito? Which WON'T happen either.

            Firstly. Mayweather has no right making ANY demands. You know why? because he is not a draw, nor is he a champion.

            There is only one fight that makes sense for Floyd. And that is Ricky Hatton. Negotiating for anything else is rediculous.

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            • DLT
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              #7
              Originally posted by fatpom
              This is about as surprising as the sun coming up this morning.

              Please allow me to quote an extremly knowledgeable post from a tremendous guy in the "Everyone should follow suit" thread" regarding this fight.



              Hmmm, I wonder who said that? Someone should send some Kharma his way.


              Floyd has spent far too much time in the Roy Jones school of negotiations. Now he wants Margarito? Which WON'T happen either.

              Firstly. Mayweather has no right making ANY demands. You know why? because he is not a draw, nor is he a champion.

              There is only one fight that makes sense for Floyd. And that is Ricky Hatton. Negotiating for anything else is rediculous.
              and Winky and Margarito are draws? Floyd cant make demands on most but on these 2 he can, especially if he's moving up in weight

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              • IwatchBoxing
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                #8
                Originally posted by DLT
                and Winky and Margarito are draws? Floyd cant make demands on most but on these 2 he can, especially if he's moving up in weight
                Yawn, somebody wake me up when its done than.

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                • Stealthic
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                  I think Floyd would destroy Margarito in near the same fashion as he did Gatti. Margarito will offer a lot more, but in the end Floyd's handspeed is just too much. Margarito can get inside to disrupt him, but Floyd is so good at adapting that I don't think it would last.

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                  • jayschre
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                    Floyd just did what a hell of alot of **** talking fighters do when they run their mouth about somebody that is actually willing to shut them up!

                    He priced himself out of the bout! Floyd knows he would have been giving an ass whoopin so he balked at the 50/50 purse split. And saying that Floyd is the bigger draw now is ludicris, he just beat who was it oh yeah zGatti and Bruseles. While Winky just whooped up on who? That's right Tito Trinidad and before that was Mosely, so really now who is the bigger draw?

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