Comments Thread For: Klitschko vs Briggs is Set For October 16 in Germany

[WladIsTheChamp]

Your issue should be with the WBC and not with Klitschko.

You say it's a joke that Briggs is getting a title shot but look at the WBC rankings. Ray Austin is the #1 contender.

Are you going to call Vitali names when he is forced to fight his mandatory next?

And comparing Briggs as an opponent to Haye choosing Harrison isn't comparing apples to apples.

For one thing Audley Harrison isn't even ranked by the WBA, not only is it a ***** move for Haye to choose him, but he is gonna have to bribe the WBA just to get the fight sanctioned.

Secondly, no matter what you say about Briggs, his win over Sergei Lyakovich is 100x more significant than any win on Harrison's resume.

This. Briggs has more power and has accomplished more than Audley will ever have (in the pros). Don't like Briggs and it would be a pleasure to watch him get pummeled by Vitaly but Harrison is as old as Briggs and has never even fought for world title, never mind won it, Briggs is a much more respectable opponent than Fraudley.

Pineapplehead makes the better "villain", I wouldn't really enjoy seeing Fraudley get pummeled, but would have a smile everytime Vitaly lands on Briggs.

[WladIsTheChamp]

The following top fighters flatly refused to fight Vitaly or Wlad after getting offers from them:

Gaye
Valuev
Povetkin
Solis
Adamek

Him or his brother already beat the following top fighters:
Chagaev
Arreola
Chambers
Peter

Only top 15 fighters left are Boytsov and Dimitrenko, Dimitrenko was destroyed by Chambers, so he isn't ready and would be a joke. Boytsov is not ready and they will probably fight him in their next 1-2 fights.

Vitaly and Wlad get a pass for picking anyone at this point, they have cleared out the division.

Picking a younger 2-time world champ with power and no size difference, one who talked mad **** about both brothers, is a very good choice for Vitaly. I can't think of anyone better. I would like to see James Toney get a beating from the Klitschkos actually, just to hear Toney make excuses afterwards.

[Dave Rado]

but at the same time he has not made a single suggestion about a fighter ranked by the WBC that he would want to see Vitali fight.

You obviously haven't bothered to read my posts, if you really think that. Try buying some glasses.

I've said several times, in several different posts, that he should have approached Adamek and didn't. I've also said that even Holyfield is far more deserving than Briggs is (and is ranked far higher by boxrec); and that absolutely anyone ranked in boxrec's top 50 would be more deserving than Briggs. Even Toney is more deserving than Briggs, although there are about 40 fighters more deserving than Toney.

But bottom line is he hasn't even approached Adamek, who is a genuine top 5 fighter (according to the independent rankings like The Ring, as well as according to the WBC), and that makes this whole discussion ridiculous.

[Dave Rado]

The following top fighters flatly refused to fight Vitaly or Wlad after getting offers from them:

Gaye
Valuev
Povetkin
Solis
Adamek

Adamek turned Wlad down a year ago because he was only given 3 weeks notice. That's not a reason for Vitali to boycott him now.

Solis has never been made an offer - or if he has, where is your link?

[Dave Rado]

Dave Rado wants to talk **** about Vitali

If calling someone a borderline ATG and praising his ring intelligence and calling his ability to judge distance uncanny, is talking shit, then what's your definition of a compliment????

Criticising his choice of opponent is not talking shit - especially given that I said that the only reason it matters is that Vitali is a great champion who is close to retirement, and therefore should be ending his career with the best possible opponents. Stop being so ridiculously over-sensitive.

When I've criticise Haye's choice of opponent, I have talked shit about Haye, because it's obvious he's ducking the Klitschkos. But I haven't accused Vitali of ducking anyone. I just think it's sad that a great champion who is close to retirement is fighting two journeymen back to back (especially as they are both voluntary defences); and I simply don't believe that he couldn't have made more effort to find a better opponent than Briggs, who is a shot fighter.

It's noticeable that Wlad's choice of opponents has been much better than Vitali's in recent times.

and I am not sure why, he has not made any constructive suggestions about who Vitali could be fighting on October 16th instead of Briggs.

I have said several times that absolutely anyone ranked in boxrec's top 78 would be more deserving than Briggs, and have pointed out several times that Adamek hasn't been approached by Vitali, and that even Holyfield would be far more deserving than Briggs.

Adamek seems to be the only name he can regurgitate and it's pretty safe to say that he would not be ready for Vitali 2 months after fighting Grant.

Why give him only two months notice? That sort of argument would mean that Vitali would never be able to fight Adamek, because Adamek likes to keep busy. Give him 3 months notice (i.e. offer him a fight in November) and I'd bet all my points he'd take the fight in an instant.

[Hitman932]

You obviously haven't bothered to read my posts, if you really think that. Try buying some glasses.

I've said several times, in several different posts, that he should have approached Adamek and didn't. I've also said that even Holyfield is far more deserving than Briggs is (and is ranked far higher by boxrec); and that absolutely anyone ranked in boxrec's top 50 would be more deserving than Briggs. Even Toney is more deserving than Briggs, although there are about 40 fighters more deserving than Toney.

But bottom line is he hasn't even approached Adamek, who is a genuine top 5 fighter (according to the independent rankings like The Ring, as well as according to the WBC), and that makes this whole discussion ridiculous.

Adamek is the one who rushed to sign a fight with Michael Grant when it was clear that the Klitschkos would be available.

He made it clear by doing so that he was not interested in a Klitschko fight for the time being. Well made it clear to everyone but you apparently.

And Evander Holyfield is not ranked by the WBC, so I think you need to get some damn glasses, and maybe also an understanding of the simple concept of an opponent needing to be ranked by the sanctioning body, and not by boxrec.

[Dave Rado]

Adamek is the one who rushed to sign a fight with Michael Grant when it was clear that the Klitschkos would be available.

He made it clear by doing so that he was not interested in a Klitschko fight for the time being. Well made it clear to everyone but you apparently.

Rubbish. Have you read Jake Donovan's article on the subject? He thinks Adamek took the fight for the exact opposite reason. Jake is boxingscene's Managing Editor, and is also an award-winning member of the Boxing Writers Association of America, he's not some ignorant poster. So less of your patronising references.

He's fighting Grant this week, so there's no reason why that should prevent him fighting Vitali in November.

And Evander Holyfield is not ranked by the WBC, so I think you need to get some damn glasses, and maybe also an understanding of the simple concept of an opponent needing to be ranked by the sanctioning body, and not by boxrec.

It's a voluntary, and he could get permission to fight Holy in a voluntary if he wanted.

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Fastblack

Adamek doesn't want to lose badly so soon as a heavyweight. The pole beat a club fighter in arreola. Fighters want to win and eventually want the big payday also knowing they are going to lose. The KLits have outdistanced themselves currently since there are no challengers and putting a quitting no talent briggs there for the check is smart by Vitali. No one is there currently that can challenge the Klits and that is great. Two white guys dominating the world and destroying all comers. 300 million americans and not one heavyweight boxer.