Wladimir Klitschko is finally recognized by the Ring Magazine and makes p4p list

[Wlad Klitschko]

So now Sam Peter was out of shape against Wlad? Either you didn't see the fight and you are just talking out of your ass, or you're trying to rewrite history, so which one is it?

Clearly people didnt see the fight who say they did. If anyone says Wlad was knocked down 3 times, just put them on ignore because they didnt watch the fight. No way was Wlad knocked down even twice. Bad ref. Wlad win every other round but those nonsense rounds.

[The Big Dunn]

So now Sam Peter was out of shape against Wlad? Either you didn't see the fight and you are just talking out of your ass, or you're trying to rewrite history, so which one is it?

I saw the fight. Off the top of my head I thought he weighed around 250 or so. I may be wrong. Sam wasn't in the best shape. he should come in about 235 or so IMO.

[IMDAZED]

Wlad to me should be top 5 and Vitali top 10. How do you say his skills arent top 50? Its like saying Shaq was never a top 50 player in the NBA because he couldnt shoot or dribble. Wlad is very skilled, he may not be as quick as someone 120 lbs lighter than him, but he dishes out punishment, KO's his opponents and doesnt get hit back. What more is a boxer supposed to do. Would you want him to dance for you? Ali shuffle in the ring a little, utilize defenses no appropriate for him, switch to south paw? If punching someone int he face with your left hand is working...why wouldnt you keep doing it? To me p4p should be who dominates their division more with bonuses for fighters who dominate multiple divisions. Hence why I also have Adamek in my p4p list. Adamek beat top 10 hw Chris Arreola..who weighed around 40 lbs more than him. That is the definition of p4p.

Vitali isn't sniffing pound for pound.

[Pirao]

I saw the fight. Off the top of my head I thought he weighed around 250 or so. I may be wrong. Sam wasn't in the best shape. he should come in about 235 or so IMO.

Yes, I'm sure you did

[RimmyDelicious]

He might be the most dominant champion in any division in the sport, rivaled perhaps by Calderon. That says it all really.

[GoogleMe]

Wladirmir and his brother Vitali did their job. Respect them.

[The Hammer]

I saw the fight. Off the top of my head I thought he weighed around 250 or so. I may be wrong. Sam wasn't in the best shape. he should come in about 235 or so IMO.

Sam was in his best shape for his fight with Wlad at 239. He was overweight in later fights with McCline and others.

I was comparing Chagaev's win with Haye's. Haye was a blown up crusier when he beat Valuev. Again when you have a hard time refuting my posts with facts you do one of two things:

1. Falsely accuse me of prejudice/racism and not address the post
2. Accuse me of respecting someone only because they are an American but not addressing the posts.

Some posters agree with you. I don't. I was clear as to why I didn't agree yet you ignored those reasons and decided to criticize me. Do what you have to do.

Chagaev is cruiserweight-sized. He's actually naturally smaller than Haye, who's about the same size as Muhammed Ali and moved up because he couldn't make cruiserweight.

Big Dunn, it's obvious nothing Wlad ever does is going to earn your respect. Your mind is made up. So let's leave it at that.

But it's nice to see MOST people recognize Wlad as one of the best.

[GoogleMe]

The klitschko's atleast try to stay active.

[The Big Dunn]

Sam was in his best shape for his fight with Wlad at 239. He was overweight in later fights with McCline and others.



Chagaev is cruiserweight-sized. He's actually naturally smaller than Haye, who's about the same size as Muhammed Ali and moved up because he couldn't make cruiserweight.

Big Dunn, it's obvious nothing Wlad ever does is going to earn your respect. Your mind is made up. So let's leave it at that.

But it's nice to see MOST people recognize Wlad as one of the best.

Big Dunn, it's obvious nothing Wlad ever does is going to earn your respect. Your mind is made up. So let's leave it at that.

This is where you are wrong. I said I wouldn't put him in the top 10 p4p because of the competition. Doesn't mean Wlad doesn't have my respect. Its not a zero sum equation.

[Medved]

Theres nobody in the boxing world that has been dominant and feared like the Klitschko brothers, thats a fact. They cleaned up division and unified all the belts, what other division is like that? All the belts are scattered and everyone is scared of fighting good people because it will ruin their records. The brothers have been fighting ANYONE who challanges them and kicking their ass. people are scared to fight them and avoid them at all costs. if Klitschko's were Golden Boy they woulda been ranked #1 p4p list long time ago but since they fight in Germany its well.... a freaking joke , look at the people in the top #10 p4p, i mean they had dawson in there << LOL.. Im guessing the age of posters on NSB is about 14 judging by all the "rappers" and anime pictures in peoples profiles so your opinions are worth exactly nothing.