Wladimir Klitschko is finally recognized by the Ring Magazine and makes p4p list

[The Hammer]

Most definitely.

I've actually always thought he should have been on there for a awhile now.

I'm happy to see you recognize Wlad as being one of the best, Reed.

[Tyson.]

Klitschko ability wise does not deserve to be in the P4P top 50.

But based on his domination of the heavyweight division he does.

[The Hammer]

Frankly, I don't care what he did as an amatuer. Beating Valuev (a BUM) by a wider margin than a blown up crusierweight doesn't mean anything either.

Holyfield was a blown-up cruiserweight.

But you respect him because he's an American.

[IMDAZED]

Klitschko ability wise does not deserve to be in the P4P top 50.

But based on his domination of the heavyweight division he does.

Actually I'd say that ability-wise and in terms of domination, he certainly belongs in the top 10. It's the quality of opposition that's the question mark.

[Tyson.]

Actually I'd say that ability-wise and in terms of domination, he certainly belongs in the top 10. It's the quality of opposition that's the question mark.

[street bully]

He should have been in it since 2008. It's too bad the HW contenders today are overweight whales man.

[S.G.]

In my personal P4P rankings I'm gonna start showing more love to the established guys who've been working their asses off yet still find themselves somewhat underappreciated by the boxing media. Guys like Wlad, Moreno, Adamek, Montiel, etc.

[The Big Dunn]

Holyfield was a blown-up cruiserweight.

But you respect him because he's an American.

I was comparing Chagaev's win with Haye's. Haye was a blown up crusier when he beat Valuev. Again when you have a hard time refuting my posts with facts you do one of two things:

1. Falsely accuse me of prejudice/racism and not address the post
2. Accuse me of respecting someone only because they are an American but not addressing the posts.

Some posters agree with you. I don't. I was clear as to why I didn't agree yet you ignored those reasons and decided to criticize me. Do what you have to do.

[Pirao]

No Calzaghe. I have seen all of Wlad's recent opponents either against him or in other fights. No offense but the best fighter he's faced in the last 5 yrs may have been an out of shape Sam Peter, who knocked him down 3 times.

So now Sam Peter was out of shape against Wlad? Either you didn't see the fight and you are just talking out of your ass, or you're trying to rewrite history, so which one is it?

[Wlad Klitschko]

Wlad to me should be top 5 and Vitali top 10. How do you say his skills arent top 50? Its like saying Shaq was never a top 50 player in the NBA because he couldnt shoot or dribble. Wlad is very skilled, he may not be as quick as someone 120 lbs lighter than him, but he dishes out punishment, KO's his opponents and doesnt get hit back. What more is a boxer supposed to do. Would you want him to dance for you? Ali shuffle in the ring a little, utilize defenses no appropriate for him, switch to south paw? If punching someone int he face with your left hand is working...why wouldnt you keep doing it? To me p4p should be who dominates their division more with bonuses for fighters who dominate multiple divisions. Hence why I also have Adamek in my p4p list. Adamek beat top 10 hw Chris Arreola..who weighed around 40 lbs more than him. That is the definition of p4p.