Wladimir Klitschko is finally recognized by the Ring Magazine and makes p4p list

[CaRnAgEViOLaToR]

Wlad dont deserve to be in the top 25

[BattlingNelson]

About time. This ranking is long overdue.

I can't see putting wlad in the top 10 before this based on the competition he faced. The fighters you named deserved to be ranked based on their competition.

How would you then explain Dawson and pwill making the list?

[The Big Dunn]

Bull****.

Who decides how good the competition is? You overrate the fighters of the 90s.

Many of Wlad's opponents were undefeated, in their prime and never knocked down before, then Wlad knocked them out.

Look dude I get that you are a big Klits fan. The hwt division hasn't been this bad since late in Holmes title run. Just like larry(spinks), Wlad's top competitor looks to be a blown up lthwt (Adamek).Michael Grant, David Tua, hasim Rahman, all 2nd tier fighters in the 90's are still 2nd tier fighters now. They were all MUCH better then.

[The Big Dunn]

About time. This ranking is long overdue.



How would you then explain Dawson and pwill making the list?

Pwill got there beating Marg and hasn't lost since so he deserves to stay there. Same with dawson, they got on after big wins and never got off. Dawson is off now after he lost. Pwill, like it or not, beat Sergio and Cintron bailed (even though he was giving it to PWill).

[Pirao]

It took them time, but they did at least, thank God.

[BattlingNelson]

Pwill got there beating Marg and hasn't lost since so he deserves to stay there. Same with dawson, they got on after big wins and never got off. Dawson is off now after he lost. Pwill, like it or not, beat Sergio and Cintron bailed (even though he was giving it to PWill).

Nah. Pwill entered boxingscenes rankings in september 2008 with this remark:

The Take: By far the least accomplished man on the list, there is no denying the summer months have been good to Williams, good enough to edge out Cotto for this ten spot. While the glow of Cotto-Margarito is still washing over the game, and while Margarito has certainly earned the right to call himself one of the World’s best, what does it all say about Williams? He followed his gutsy win over the Mexican steamroller with a shocking loss to Puerto Rico’s Carlos Quintana in February but then credited himself by correcting and immediately avenging that off night in a single round in on June 6. This is clearly no one-trick pony. Margarito’s dismantling of Cotto casts a light on Williams because the lanky “Punisher” did something no one else at Welterweight has done against Margarito in recent memory. He built the customary lead only to have Margarito come roaring back to begin the process of doling out pain…but unlike so many others, including Cotto, he survived the suffering. He even outfought Margarito in the final round to seal victory after being stunned in the 9th and 11th. Margarito’s resume is better but until he exacts revenge we won’t know if, head to head, he can be better than Williams until they meet again.

Dawson on the other hand..... What's those big wins of his?

[Alec900]

Pwill got there beating Marg and hasn't lost since so he deserves to stay there. Same with dawson, they got on after big wins and never got off. Dawson is off now after he lost. Pwill, like it or not, beat Sergio and Cintron bailed (even though he was giving it to PWill).

umm,he lost to Quintana after beating Margacheat

[prinzemanspopa]

That's a pretty poor spot to put the most dominant champion of all current active fighters in,they might as well not have included him at all.


When you see one-hit wonders like Donaire,or old,faded fighters like Mosley,who's been on and off since his two losses to the late Vernon Forrest,placed above long time champions such as Wlad,who has cleared his division as decisively as any heavyweight in history,then you know these mythical p4p lists have no credibility.



The likes of Cotto,Mosley,Dawson,Williams,Martinez,ect,would have killed to have had as long and decisive a run as this heavyweight great has had.




You don't have to like Wlad or his style to appreciate his dominance.

[The Big Dunn]

Nah. Pwill entered boxingscenes rankings in september 2008 with this remark:



Dawson on the other hand..... What's those big wins of his?

But beating Marg was put him in position to enter the rankings. Dawson beat fighters that were well respected in such dominating (albeit boring ) fashion. These fighters were more respected than those Wlad was beating.

[z0jo]

They should just call it "p4p american fighters list" because thats all they put on there even if they suck