Andre Ward is a dirty fighting sneaky opportunist.

[S H A R K B O Y]

Good thread.

Andre Ward is a cheater and a disgrace to boxing.

Vitali used steroids.

[Mikhnienko]

Yet the guy in your avatar was found to be using steroids! lmao

His Av is of Volodymyr not Vitali

I think Ward's speed negates a lot of things.

He can butt and get out fast.

I often think that if a guy could take one step back and fire when he's coming in it could nullify him but it seems like no one so far is quick enough or can time him well enough to pull it off.
Remember Ward getting dropped against Kenny Kost early in his carer?

I think you need impeccable timing to negate some of his tactics and the guys he's fought just aren't quick enough.

Nobody is better at that than Bute. That's also why i like how he matches up vs Pascal who is wide open to a left vs southpaws when he's coming in.

[Mikhnienko]

So. Foreman beat Frazier and Norton far easier than Ali did. We saw what Ali did to Foreman lol...

Doest change the fact that it was a very good win vs a huge puncher who is dirty and rough on the inside.

[Bhopreign]

I think Ward's speed negates a lot of things.

He can butt and get out fast.

I often think that if a guy could take one step back and fire when he's coming in it could nullify him but it seems like no one so far is quick enough or can time him well enough to pull it off.

Remember Ward getting dropped against Kenny Kost early in his carer?

I think you need impeccable timing to negate some of his tactics and the guys he's fought just aren't quick enough.

Do you have the Zapruder of him getting dropped? I think youre wrong on this one.

[Guest]

Do you have the Zapruder of him getting dropped? I think youre wrong on this one.

He was hanging on for dear life

[Frank Ducketts]

Doest change the fact that it was a very good win vs a huge puncher who is dirty and rough on the inside.

A win is a win, and looking better than another guy against common opponents doesn't guarantee a sure win in boxing.

[killacash]

Boone dropped him while he was going to lean in with his head. Ward is a sucker for uppercuts but the guys he fights never use em.

[Frank Ducketts]

He was hanging on for dear life

Where he hung on for dear life, fighters have been ko'd. See PAc for details. Ali was down early in his career...many a great has been down. Floyd might be the only fighter who is just about flawless as a fighter today, and he has flaws that haven't been exploited yet. Ward doesn't butt on purpose...

[Bhopreign]

He was hanging on for dear life

You said he dropped him. Its obvious Ward doesnt like getting hit.

[Frank Ducketts]

Bute imo can't take it to the body, Pascal is prone to uppercuts, Floyd is open for the right hand, Manny can't block a jab...so what lol... Every fighter is flawed to someone. Over coming those flaws is their job.