Hopkins says Pacquaio should take the tests.

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  • LilFloyd
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    #221
    Why floyd being talked about in this thread!!????? He's not even thinking about boxing right now.

    LEAVE FLOYDIE ALONE!!!! He's on vacation right now! Just wait until pac officially signs to fight margarito. As soon as pac signs, floyd will start thinking about boxing and end his vacation right away.

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    • maguirre
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      #222
      Originally posted by ThePrince
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      Doctor Says Drawing Random Blood Risks Pre-Bout Hematoma
      -Lem Satterfield

      During the failed negotiations for a potential March 13 bout against unbeaten Floyd Mayweather, seven-division champion, Manny Pacquiao claimed that he did not want to have blood randomly drawn for drug testing within 14 days of a fight.

      During Thursday's Nevada State Athletic Commission hearing and teleconference that dealt with steroids and drug testing for illegal substances, the Filipino super star's assertion received some support.

      Former chief ringside physician, Dr. David Watson, argued that a hematomas, infections or other injuries could develop in the arm as a result of the skin being punctured "within three weeks of a fight."

      "Dr. Watson has done thousands of weigh-in physicals and done thousands of fights. He's viewed tons of medical records. What Dr. Watson was kind of saying was that on some occasions with fighters, he would notice hematomas on the inside of the elbow where they gave blood," said Keith Kizer, executive director of the NSAC.

      "So Dr. Watson was concerned that you could have fighters who -- if you take blood too close to the fight -- you could run the risk of something like that developing in a fighter," said Kizer. "That could cause an effect on their performance, especially when they've had to do fights on late notice, for the infections diseases -- Hepetitus A, Hepititis B, and HIV -- and they had to give blood for that."


      Kizer said that another doctor, Robert Voy, formerly of United States Olympic Committee drug testing, "brought up the fact that you can have infections."

      "There was a center in Las Vegas that re-used needles for some sort of tests, and people got Hepatitis C from that situation," said Kizer (pictured below, at right). "So there's a concern that you can infect somebody and that you can infect the arm nick the vein, or jab it in the wrong place. [Dr. Watson] noticed some bruising on the arms within three weeks of the fight. The question is, can you minimize that?"
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      Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, CEO of Top Rank Promotions, for example, believes that he knows why USADA ended its random blood testing so far out from the May 1 fight date.

      "You notice that they stopped blood testing in the Floyd Mayweather-Shane Mosley fight about 18 days before. Well, I'm not a doctor, but you have to realize that a fighter uses his arms a lot like a runner uses his legs. You can't take blood too close to the fight. Two or three weeks before the fight he can get a hematoma which can prevent him from either training or fighting," said Arum.

      "If it's done further out before the fight, then there's no real problem. But closer to the fight, there's a real problem. For a fighter to lose the last week in training or the week before the fight is a disaster for a fighter," said Arum. "That could happen if he gets a hematoma in the arm that's used for the blood test. USADA, whatever, they might say, must have recognized this, and I believe that that's why they didn't test for blood before 18 days."
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      ^That's the reason.
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      • pasawayako
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        #223
        Originally posted by Gino Ros
        floyd wanted random testing. i think the 14 days was just to meet in the middle but manny turned it down.

        floyd said he wanted random testing like he did with shane
        Do u mean the 18 days cut off not a 14 days right?

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        • carts
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          #224
          Originally posted by yesir
          haha, so now it has to be randoom year around in order for floyd to ask for the OST.

          here is the fact of the matter. pac wants no part of full random testing whether its year around or leading up to a fight so either way.

          your arguement, fails.
          u didnt answer my question dude is it just a made up testing or not?

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          • maguirre
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            #225
            I was asking *****s if their brand of OST is up to the day of the fight. Whether in their opinion they agree that boxers in general should undergo testing ON THE DAY OF THE FIGHT.

            So far only one has said yes. The rest just repeat the same bullcrap.

            Since they are not satisfied with 14 days we will assume that the rest are all amenable to blood test on the day of the fight. And since this is Floyd's baby, we will now expect that Floyd will take the test on the day of fight when he faces his next opponent.

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            • pistol whip
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              #226
              Originally posted by yesir
              PEDs run rampant in baseball and im sure the same goes for football.

              but thanks b.c you speak for all the *******s. yall dont care abotu athletes being clean.
              I would have to be a Pac fan in order to speak for Pac tards now wouldn't I? My opinion on the subject has nothing to do with which fighter i like but as always *****s have to justify my thinking by dumbing everything down to where it has to just be that I like Pac. Truth is I could care less about the guy, im no much of a fan of his in fact I don't have a favorite boxer. This is about one person making up his own rule and holding up the biggest fight ever. Im all for better testing as long as it is sanctioned by a boxing commission what so wrong about that? A fighter making up rules as he goes along is no diffrent to me thatn taking PED's themselves. They tip the scales in their favor weather it be weakening another fighter, showmanship purposes, or just causing a distraction in another fighters camp. Im all for a level playing field but making up rules as you go along is just as detrimental to the sport as PED's in my oh so humble opinion.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #227
                Originally posted by n0b0dy
                Hopkins is GBP and is protecting FMJ in the media so he wont transfer to DK.
                Yeah. Except when he's dissing Floyd in interviews. Then he's just keeping it real. Face it, it's pretty obvious why Manny doesn't want to take the full testing.

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                • Gino Ros
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                  #228
                  Originally posted by pasawayako
                  Do u mean the 18 days cut off not a 14 days right?
                  im not a floyd fan but from what i heard there was no cutoff, i dont have to make stuff up.

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                  • carts
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                    #229
                    look *****s the whole year testing is for the athletes to not cycle their drug use so if its only two months floyd maybe roiding right now right so is pac. so whats the drug test floyd wants??? 2 ****ing months and random so whats the point? random or not itll not be effective.. so its just a ****ing made up drug testing bullshiet!

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                    • pistol whip
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                      #230
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Yeah. Except when he's dissing Floyd in interviews. Then he's just keeping it real. Face it, it's pretty obvious why Manny doesn't want to take the full testing.
                      And it's not like everyone else is doing it either! But Im sure you will just say "well they are all on PED's themselves".

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