Jean Pascal vs. Tavoris Cloud

[-Kev-]

I'd like to say Pascal, but with his stamina issues and Cloud's speed, power and activity, he's hardly the favorite.

What kind of speed?


Man 'm reading too many people claiming these slow guys have fast hands. I've read Bute has fast hand speed, now Cloud.

I remember when fast handspeed, was RJJ, Judah, prime Mayweather, Pacquiao, etc.


Now it's Cloud, Froch, Bute, Pavlik, Arreola, The Big Show, Kane, Undertaker...

[Evil Abed]

What kind of speed?


Man 'm reading too many people claiming these slow guys have fast hands. I've read Bute has fast hand speed, now Cloud.

I remember when fast handspeed, was RJJ, Judah, prime Mayweather, Pacquiao, etc.


Now it's Cloud, Froch, Bute, Pavlik, Arreola, The Big Show, Kane, Undertaker...

lol. Cloud can be explosive.

He would seem to have decent hand speed.

Nothing special.

Its like saying Lacy had fast hands.

[Pastrano]

What kind of speed?


Man 'm reading too many people claiming these slow guys have fast hands. I've read Bute has fast hand speed, now Cloud.

I remember when fast handspeed, was RJJ, Judah, prime Mayweather, Pacquiao, etc.


Now it's Cloud, Froch, Bute, Pavlik, Arreola, The Big Show, Kane, Undertaker...

He's fast, if he wasn't he couldn't stagger Johnson like he did. He has footspeed, maybe not such extraordinary handspeed but footspeed yeah. And his movement is great. Pascal used to move better but now his muscles have slowed him down and his stamina too. No good.

[Evil Abed]

He's fast, if he wasn't he couldn't stagger Johnson like he did. He has footspeed, maybe not such extraordinary handspeed but footspeed yeah. And his movement is great. Pascal used to move better but now his muscles have slowed him down and his stamina too. No good.

Dawson is faster. He couldn't hurt Johnson.

Speed has nothing to do with it.

Cloud is strong and explosive in spots

Johnson got caught by a big guy.

[Evil Abed]

I got Pascal winning a UD

[ny123]

This would be a great action fight. I think Pascal would win early rounds but Cloud would finish strong with Pascal tiring and capture a sd.

[Evil Abed]

I wonder if Pascal can hurt Cloud.

Should be interesting.

If this fight dosen't happen I wouldn't mind seeing Miranda-Cloud or Miranda-Pascal.

[ny123]

I wonder if Pascal can hurt Cloud.

Should interesting.

If this fight dosen't happen I wouldn't mind seeing Miranda-Cloud or Miranda-Pascal.

Miranda gets stopped ealry by both i think. If Jermain Taylor comes back i would like to see him in there with Miranda.

[Evil Abed]

This fight is edging towards reality.

Taking bets.

I'm still riding with Pascal.

[ИATAS]

I wonder if Pascal can hurt Cloud.

As a Cloud supportor I think he can. If he can hurt hopkins (even an old hopkins has a damn good chin) he can hurt Cloud. Cloud was briefly stunned against Glen Johnson I believe in the first round, so he's been hurt before. To his credit he recovered quickly and wasn't really hurt again.