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  • SweetPbfAli
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    #61
    Originally posted by STRUGG
    i agree..........numbers dont lie.................Shane was 38 years old when floyd finally cant weasel his way out of senior............citizen.........shane
    If Shane didn't make that excuse, why are you?

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    • goldenglove2
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      #62
      Originally posted by SweetPbfAli
      If Shane didn't make that excuse, why are you?
      you think that not fighting for a year and a half and being 38 yrs old is an 'excuse' ?

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      • Biolink
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        #63
        Originally posted by Willie Swindler
        stop being ****** & swindling yourself,

        floyd never fought anybody as good as chad dawson. mosley & oscar were better fighters than dawson BUT NOT THE OLD SHOT VERSIONS FLOYD BEAT.

        show me a undefeated fighter & ill show you somebody who hasnt really fought anybody.

        the reason why floyd is undefeated is because he has never beaten a fighter you could rightfully classify as a all time great in their prime. the 3 hall of fame fighters he beat were all past prime & out of their prime divisions (marquez & oscar).

        there's a reason why floyd is undefeated & has a universal & international reputation as a scared cherry picking ducker who is afraid to lose his undefeated record.

        ffs, a 39 year old 1 year & 5 month inactive mosley almost floyd KTFO.
        That's a stretch to say he was almost knocked out.

        He got stunned and recovered. A lot of fighters would hit the deck after eating two clean shots like that

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          #64
          Originally posted by Biolink
          That's a stretch to say he was almost knocked out.

          He got stunned and recovered. A lot of fighters would hit the deck after eating two clean shots like that
          I agree. he comosed himself very well.

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          • Bushbaby
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            #65
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
            Come on now, I heard a different tune after Mosley had destroyed Margarito. Why the change of heart?
            What are U talking about,I absolutely give Floyd full credit for Mosley!!But I don't see how a Dawson-Pascal fight can be compaired to anything Floyd has done!!Pascal is young,prime & highly ranked,most of Floyd's top wins were against older great fighters past it,that's just the truth!!

            Dawson-Pascal was at light heavy,with Pascal being younger & prime & ranked #2,the 2 best in the division!!Floyd hasn't fought anyone like that since Corrales,he could have at 147,but he chose a vacation over Pacman!!

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #66
              Originally posted by ADP02
              In another thread the other day, some of Floyd's fans were saying that Floyd was slightly on the downturn.

              True or not, Mosley will be turning 39 in a few weeks from now.

              When he fought Margo, he was 37 and had just fought a few months before that (ie. active - no ring rust). Add the fact that Margo has a different style than Floyd. Meaning, it's easier for an older Mosley to catch someone that is always coming at you (Margo) than someone with better movement and defense (Floyd).

              When he fought Floyd, Mosley had a long layoff. That could hurt a younger fighter, imagine someone who is months away from turning 39. Floyd said he needed a tuneup fight when he came back from his long layoff but Mosley fought Floyd when he came out of his long layoff. BIG DIFFERENCE in opponent selection!!!

              Another fact is that Mosley actually showed his ring rust and that he had no stamina during the Floyd fight.

              Mosley was not close to a prime fighter no matter which way you look at it. Had Mosley fought Floyd at his prime, it would have been an extremely competitive fight and people would not be criticizing Floyd's cherry picking.
              I'm not tryin' to make him out to be in his prime and I refuse to believe he was rusty. You also have to take into consideration that Mayweather was coming off a glorified sparring session in Mayweather-Marquez. Fact is, it's no coincidence that Mosley came off a great performance against Margarito and then looked average against Floyd. It's no coincidence that DLH came off a great performance against Mayorga and then looked fairly decent against Floyd. It's like Jim Lampley said "Mayweather is showing us that his skill level is a lot different then everyone elses". That's the only thing we can conclude.

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              • Doctor_Tenma
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                #67
                Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
                What are U talking about,I absolutely give Floyd full credit for Mosley!!But I don't see how a Dawson-Pascal fight can be compaired to anything Floyd has done!!Pascal is young,prime & highly ranked,most of Floyd's top wins were against older great fighters past it,that's just the truth!!

                Dawson-Pascal was at light heavy,with Pascal being younger & prime & ranked #2,the 2 best in the division!!Floyd hasn't fought anyone like that since Corrales,he could have at 147,but he chose a vacation over Pacman!!
                I'm not making that comparison either. But I would argue that DLH in that stage (When Mayweather faught him) is a better fighter then Jean Pascal. As is Shane Mosley in my opinion. Pascal ain't all that, why make him out to be?

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                • Ragnar Lothbrok
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Biolink
                  That's a stretch to say he was almost knocked out.

                  He got stunned and recovered. A lot of fighters would hit the deck after eating two clean shots like that
                  stunned is being modest, he was hurt & if shane wasnt 39 years old & coming off 1 year & 5 months of inactivity, he would have been more accurate & had more stamina to finish off floyd.

                  Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
                  I'm not tryin' to make him out to be in his prime and I refuse to believe he was rusty. You also have to take into consideration that Mayweather was coming off a glorified sparring session in Mayweather-Marquez. Fact is, it's no coincidence that Mosley came off a great performance against Margarito and then looked average against Floyd. It's no coincidence that DLH came off a great performance against Mayorga and then looked fairly decent against Floyd. It's like Jim Lampley said "Mayweather is showing us that his skill level is a lot different then everyone elses". That's the only thing we can conclude.
                  how could you say he wasnt rusty dom? he was off for 1 year & 5 months. fact is floyd fought more recently than mosley vs a career featherweight with 56 plus fights coming off 3 straight wars at welterweight.

                  now you are trying to use oscar mayorga then the oscar vs floyd fight to margarito vs mosley to mosley vs floyd fight?

                  mayorga was a crap fighter by the time oscar got him. the fact that mosley sturggled vs that same crap mayorga should have told you shane was way past prime. that margarito fight made shane look better than he really is due to the fact that tony took serious punishment vs the cotto fight where he took 3 to land one. cotto at least had 2 fights to get ready vs a elite while tony jumped right away vs shane. add the fact that he got caught with plaster before the fight, margs was done physically & mentally.

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                  • Gino Ros
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by STRUGG
                    i agree..........numbers dont lie.................Shane was 38 years old when floyd finally cant weasel his way out of senior............citizen.........shane
                    To be fair, shane destroyed margarito ......last ...year...

                    not in 2003 or 2005 but.....last .....year

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                    • Doctor_Tenma
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Willie Swindler
                      stunned is being modest, he was hurt & if shane wasnt 39 years old & coming off 1 year & 5 months of inactivity, he would have been more accurate & had more stamina to finish off floyd.



                      how could you say he wasnt rusty dom? he was off for 1 year & 5 months. fact is floyd fought more recently than mosley vs a career featherweight with 56 plus fights coming off 3 straight wars at welterweight.

                      now you are trying to use oscar mayorga then the oscar vs floyd fight to margarito vs mosley to mosley vs floyd fight?

                      mayorga was a crap fighter by the time oscar got him. the fact that mosley sturggled vs that same crap mayorga should have told you shane was way past prime. that margarito fight made shane look better than he really is due to the fact that tony took serious punishment vs the cotto fight where he took 3 to land one. cotto at least had 2 fights to get ready vs a elite while tony jumped right away vs shane. add the fact that he got caught with plaster before the fight, margs was done physically & mentally.

                      Understand that everything in Mosley's offensive arsenal was neutralized. Mayweather would bend at the waist and keep his shoulder over his chin to stop Mosley's overhand right. Mosley's left hook was as good as useless because Mayweather is a master at taking away his opponent's left hook.
                      So Mosley would resort to mostly jabbin', we all know Mosley's jab is pure garbage so Mayweather would counter over the top. Mayweather was even screaming at Mosley saying "Let me see your jab Shane!". It's simple really, Mosley didn't have the tools to beat Floyd. And again, Mayweather was coming off a glorified sparring session. It goes both ways man...

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