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Since a couple bitter fans of U know who call Pacman a cheater...
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Originally posted by JK1700 View PostRandom blood testing is extremely effective at detecting PED's. Unlike urine tests which are unable to detect all forms of PED's. Shane Mosley passed all of his post-fight urine tests but was proven to have taken EPO and received designer steroids "the clear" and "the cream" prior to his fight with Oscar De La Hoya in 2003.
Random blood testing would not allow this. And Manny Pacquiao knows this. Which is why he was desperate to get scheduled tests where the drugs could be cycled out of his system before testing begins. Having realised this will never be agreed to, Pacquiao is now trying to get a cut-off point after testing. Where there would be no testing for so many days before the fight. This would be another way to get drugs into his system quick enough for him to have a significant advantage in the fight.
I support Floyd's stance on drug testing 100%. Some may feel that it's not fair on Pacquiao to demand this but his trainer does have a history of steroids. And when it actually comes down to it, If you are clean then there is no reason not to agree to randon blood testing.
http://www. bo xing news 24.com/2010/02/blood-vs-urine-the-truth-about-peds/
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Now lets think about this for a moment. If hGH and Mircera are the only things anti-doping agencies are looking for in the blood, and if urine is more effective now for detecting hGH, AND… if Mircera stays in your system so long that a three-test regime for blood would catch any fighter from press day to fight night, what is the grounds for demanding random blood testing? It is a more invasive, higher risk (blood is considered hazardous waste when transporting, for example), and antiquated method of testing athletes. Nobody truly likes to get stuck with a needle and have blood drawn from their body, much less an athlete in heavy training and dieting.
i rest my case.
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Originally posted by odogg8121 View Postman i bet you can form a complete paragraph without any insults...
the problem with that IDIOT is he takes away knowlege from the universe everytime he opens his mouth. now, if you have something intelligent to say, by all mean, i'm all ears.
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You act like people can't build their opinions without proof. It's my belief that he's a cheat because every excuse he and his team have come out with; to avoid OSDT have been almost laughable, insanely stupid and have all been debunked. I've also been skeptical of him for the longest.
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Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View PostYou act like people can't build their opinions without proof. It's my belief that he's a cheat because every excuse he and his team have come out with; to avoid OSDT have been almost laughable, insanely stupid and have all been debunked. I've also been skeptical of him for the longest.
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Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View PostYou act like people can't build their opinions without proof. It's my belief that he's a cheat because every excuse he and his team have come out with; to avoid OSDT have been almost laughable, insanely stupid and have all been debunked. I've also been skeptical of him for the longest.
there's a clear difference between stating an opinion and claiming that opinion to be a FACT.
if you are open to a mature debate. let's continue. if you're here with a closed mind, then let's just agree to disagree.
ok?
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Originally posted by Di Bushbaby View PostHey Dominicano,que pasa??That's kool,but have U seen the posters on here just plain calling Manny a cheater,having an opinion is 1 thing,but making a statement like it's a fact is another,won't U agree??
You're right to a certain degree. Just that the stuff Pacquiao and his camp came out with were so outlandishy stupid that one could almost point the finger already or point the finger.
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Originally posted by fcastro1 View Postand one other thing if this was compulsory through the nevada commission then pac said he was happy to take it. pac said take it to the commission and he will do whatever needed.If floyd was really serious about cleaning up the sport then why doesn't he take it to the governing body.pac doesn't want floyd to dictate terms to give him an edge.
And, one last point, why is it OK for Manny to dictate terms to other fighters where he gets the edge, but NOT OK, when someone else wants to dictate terms to him?
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Originally posted by V-3 View PostManny plays to the Commission when it suits him and when it doesn't, he does want he wants. So, stop this, "he will do what the commission says" argument. Because, he sure goes ABOVE the commission when it comes to HIS SELF-IMPOSED WEIGHT penalties.
And, one last point, why is it OK for Manny to dictate terms to other fighters where he gets the edge, but NOT OK, when someone else wants to dictate terms to him?
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