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  • #71
    no one is perfect. Pac has a thing for women what man doesn't. And all those people that fluff his rice are earning money. pac is helping his friends work., At least he doesn't beat women in the club or is an accomplice to an atempted murder. Pac is humble look what he does for his people. He stands outside his home giving money to the poor, and has become a congressman to help his people. Dont hate on the humble warrior thread starter.

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    • #72
      Originally posted by PureBoxer! View Post
      By Paul Magno - August 10, 2010

      When digging through the coverage of Manny Pacquiao in the media, there are some very common themes.

      Most seems to be straight-up bullet points from Top Rank and Bob Arum, Pacquiao’s promoter.

      The other type of coverage comes from the frenzied busy work of Pacquiao groupies-in-training who are working with the sole purpose of somehow ingratiating themselves to Manny and/or milking the Pacquiao phenomenon for penny-clicks and free exposure.

      To believe this public relations blanketing of the media, Manny is little more than a humble, noble, servant of God; He holds no grudges, harbors no ill will and only works for the betterment of his people. In the words of Pacquiao towel boy and “scribe for rent,” Michael Marley, “Manny Pacquiao is a humble superhero.”

      As someone looking outside the storefront window of Pacquiao-mania, though, the view is quite odd and more than a little puzzling. I guess it takes a true believer, a real bought-and-sold disciple, to somehow classify a private jet-flying, multi-media star with a posse the size of a small South American army as a “humble superhero.”

      I mean, if it was anyone else in the world, “humble” would be the last word used to describe a man with a full-time personal meat cutter, rice fluffer and foot masseuse in his employ. Nor is there much humility to be found in the lavish self-thrown birthday parties where 3,000-plus hangers-on, madly desperate to be part of the Pacquiao inner circle are crowded into a convention hall for the amusement of King Manny.

      They are subjected to Pacquiao’s karaoke versions of “La Bamba” and “Endless Love,” then line dances featuring Manny’s kids, self-aggrandizing slide shows and tribute poetry, and even a performance by his mother, Dionisia, as she does the tango on stage. Six hours of self-initiated glorification. And you better like it.

      And that’s a common theme when it comes to Manny. You better do what he says, love what he loves, and approve of everything he does or you are out of the picture. Manny will take his proverbial ball and go home.

      “Nobody wants to be the guy who asks Manny the question that might irritate him on a particular day,” Trainer Freddie Roach told GQ Magazine. “If you’re the guy who says, ‘Manny, you’re supposed to fly to Manila today,’ and Manny doesn’t want to hear it, you might not be the guy who gets to fluff his rice.”

      This attitude comes through even more clearly in his professional dealings.

      It’s a real stretch to place the “humble” tag on someone who has been so aggressively stubborn in negotiations over the years as Pacquiao, forcing opponents to jump through hoops and even using his Top Rank leverage to force other Top Rank fighters to bend to his every whim.


      The cult of personality around Pacquiao is so great, his fans so blindly loyal, that, at this point, he can be credited for a noble, righteous gesture even while flat-out doing the opposite.

      He is a God-fearing, saintly figure yet has been an admitted womanizer and an associate of some very shady individuals.


      A soon to be eight division world champ, yet his last four titles have been only of the paper variety against fighters who were not the best in their divisions.

      A man who is fond of speaking humbly to the media yet allows all sorts of mean-spirited attacks and half-truths to be spoken by those under his employ.

      A world class fighter whose last five opponents and nine of his last fourteen could be considered roadkill, coming off of career-crushing defeats.

      Pacquiao’s latest comments further reveal a man who is not living up to the self-produced press releases and glowing media reports churned out by the Pacquiao Press Corps:

      “I hope Mayweather is serious enough in doing business with Don King and is not doing this only to save face…I say this to both these men: Let’s Get It On. Fight like warriors and brave men. I am the champion, I have the belts and I should not be the one challenging you. I should not even be the one trying to make this fight happen…My promoter Bob Arum will be waiting for your call and will be very glad to hear what you have to say. The sooner, the better…if Mayweather is not really a coward, he needs to prove himself in the ring.”

      Even writer Ronnie Nathanielsz, Pacquiao crony and groupie, found it hard to reconcile this bravado with the man who has become a synonym for the word “humble” in his on-line articles.

      “While the statement appeared in a column under Pacquiao’s name,” Nathanielsz justifies in Boxingscene.com, “Sportswriters who know Pacquiao well realize that at times he merely verbalizes or scribbles an outline and a ghost-writer does the rest. Given recent history it seems that a ghost-writer has taken liberties with Pacquiao’s basic statement.”

      No, Ronnie, this is completely consistent with a man who has become accustomed to doing one thing while basking in the praise of doing quite the opposite. If Manny likes the reaction this statement produces, he will say nothing. If there’s a backlash from this trash talk, he will force one of his cronies to take the blame. That’s how King Manny rolls.

      Dichotomy is one word that could be used to describe this. Hypocrisy is another.

      Let’s not forget that it was Pacquiao’s stubborn unwillingness to consider true random blood testing that killed the first proposed fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. and it will likely kill any future efforts at making the bout.

      To characterize Manny as chasing Floyd is simplistic, at best, because, during the only real, face-to-face negotiations ever conducted between both fighters, it was Floyd who was willing to agree to purse split and weight penalties. And it was Floyd who was willing to go to arbitration and even compromise on the cut-off date on the testing while it was Manny who initiated lawsuits, refused to budge, refused to negotiate and eventually killed the talks.

      But, like much in and around the world of Manny Pacquiao, perception and reality are often mutually exclusive concepts.

      _____________________________

      Sources below:

      Pac's best friend, Luis Singson, perhaps the most corrupt politician in the Philippines. Widely known as a gambling lord, womanizer, and drug trafficker.



      Below, a picture of Manny and Singson at his playboy mansion. Singson is a 2nd rate pinoy wannabe of Al Pacino's role - Scarface.



      One of Singson's "women" allegedly had a fling with the younger man in the picture. Singson brutally beat the woman, and rumors have spread that one of his hired goons castrated the man.



      From a UK story on corruption:



      One rotten apple tends to spoil the others, but this is not the case with Pacquiao - who was womanizing before he ever met the corrupt politician. A quote from Manila in 2005:



      Pac's legacy continues well into 2010...

      If anyone remembers, the media asked Pac, immediately after defeating Cotto, if he wanted to fight Mayweather. His response? "I'm not thinking about that, for now I'm going to take a vacation with my family".

      This is a lie, He actually went on a vacation with another woman - which caused a firestorm with his family.



      Below is a video of Pacquiao's wife crying in Church, immediately after Pac's victory over Cotto:

      awww poorrr baby *****, you really are trying hard here hahaha! shame there's not a single truth in any of this haha hehe

      Atleast Pacquiao doesn't beat women like some other boxer does.

      "Men beats Women, Numbers Don't" hahaha!
      Last edited by Blubba; 08-13-2010, 08:33 AM.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by S H A R K B O Y View Post
        What's the point of the threads by your fellow ******* members talking about his money and his vacation? Exactly. This dose of medicine comes from your own.

        Of all the points i made you answer the one that was insignificant and was meant for sarcasm. I guess i am dealing with a typical *****. How about you respond to my post about being humble and guilty of association. In regards to Floyd using "i'm on vacation" excuse for not fighting, that's more justified for him to be criticized, not just fans, but the media is bashing him as well for that. The OP's thread is nothing more but an opinion and part speculation, no facts. Fact is that Floyd decided to take a long a$$ vacation instead of fighting in November, the fact is that Floyd demanded Manny to take OST even though he had never demanded any other opponents before to take that test. All the OP have proven is that Manny is rich and have many expensive things, Manny supposedly have cheated but not necessarily proven, Manny have friends in politics that are corrupt, so what does that got to do with anything, especially with boxing? What does any of that prove? Absolutely nothing. Just like the accusations that Floyd's camp have made about Manny, all based on speculations and hate, but no proof what so ever. And just like this thread.
        Last edited by rommel357; 08-13-2010, 10:08 AM.

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        • #74
          props to pureboxer...this is the best friggin' post....nothin' but truth

          and as ISA said...."the truth shall set you free"

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          • #75
            Originally posted by JK1700 View Post
            PureBoxer is the best poster on this site. Finally somebody who speaks the truth and provides structured proof to back up all of his argumnets. Some people hate him for it but it's the truth, and the truth always comes out.

            I think people are starting to see more and more that Pacquiao is to blame for the Floyd fight not happening and that he is a very different person when the cameras are off. When they are on....He's a lovable, exciting superhero who rose from poverty to become popular all over the world. And when they are off he is a hard nosed, shady guy who cheats on his wife and demands his opponents lose weight and fight him at catchweights for vacant belts.

            People love to paint Floyd as the villain but that's clearly not the case. I have always believed that he wanted the fight. But Pacquiao and Arum have twisted the situation and annoyed him that much that he doesnt even care to respond to them. Arum and Roach's lies have already been exposed many times. Floyd made one demand and if the fight doesnt happen then we have to look at Pacquiao because it's his team that have been lying throughout the whole negotiation proccess. So I blame them for the fight not happening. Arum said Pacquiao agreed to Floyd's demands but you would have to be stupid to believe that. If Pacquiao was okay with OSDT up until the fight then he would have come out and said it. But he never did.

            Pacquiao, Arum and Roach are the real villains in this. Not Floyd.
            uhmmm.. paul magno wrote the article. so i guess all this is for nothing.

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            • #76
              Originally posted by BoxingScenery View Post
              I read this piece as objectively as I could - In the end, you had merely captured a theory and ran with it...Connecting one mans troubles (Singson) with Paq is illegitimate - Disliking his Birthday Parties is laughable - Trying to find a relation between Manny the boxer and the rumored cheater, was a waste of my time.
              Arguing with you, would really take too long, so to sum up, "Humble" is an idea, those who know Manny can label him as they wish, those who don't can believe in it or not. I just find it funny you only took time writing about Manny in one side, as a spectator, and just so happened to forget about his will-to-give-back to his native people.
              And most importantly, what the **** does any of this have to do with Boxing?
              this is clear thinking. thank you.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by JK1700 View Post
                Pacquiao's fake image has been EXPOSED by Maestro!

                And his limited boxing ability will also be exposed if he ever fights a top opponent in their prime at their proper weight class. Marquez and Morales already beat up the roidman. But if he ever agrees to random blood testing. Then Floyd will give him something alot worse than a beating.
                uhmmmm.. what would that be moron? a *******?

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by SkillspayBills View Post
                  You have to admit. When PureBoxer goes in, HE GOES IN. ****.
                  Man..he goes harder than Glen Beck..

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by PureBoxer! View Post
                    Pac got played. He gave that woman extremely expensive jewelry. She dumped him after he gave her his Cotto purse, and just got engaged to a very old rich man.
                    old man? this is an outright lie.

                    here's the story:

                    http://www.spot.ph/the-feed/46308/kr...-in-california

                    here's their wedding pic.

                    http://www.spot.ph/the-feed/46308/kr...-in-california

                    clearly you spread lies.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by S H A R K B O Y View Post
                      Why ask for ridiculous stipulations to begin with? Catchweights, penalty per pounds, etc are all from Pacquiao and company. It's part of the contract. Why not ask for penalty per pounds for every fight? Exactly.
                      huh?

                      1. what catch weight? manny and li'l fa*got floyd will fight at 147. no catchweight.

                      2. the penalty for each pound li'l fa*got floyd has basis. recall that his fight with jmm was at 144. floyd is taller and bigger and yet he never tried to reach 144. he just paid 600k.

                      hence, manny's demand for the penalty. floyd is taller and bigger.

                      manny passed all his drug tests. floyd offered 14 days and sans rhyme nor reason he "withdraws" it.

                      here's the question. why is floyd specifically asking "tests be done up to the day of the fight" when during round1 he simply said, what usada sets, we follow.

                      usada ended blood tests 18 days out. the 14 days cutoff manny agreed to is within that 18 day period. why is floyd demanding day0 testing?

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