Comments Thread For: Anselmo Moreno-Nehomar Cermeno II: It’s a Big World

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By Cliff Rold - The laziest comment which can be made about boxing is that the sport is short on talent or meaningful fights. While it might be true in pockets, it’s far from accurate in describing the bulk of the game.

The truth is there might be too much for any one fan, or any one nation, to follow. With seventeen weight classes, an abundance of belts mostly meaningless as gauges of merit, and vibrant fight markets on parts of every habitable continent, boxing fans do what they can to keep up.

U.S. fans typically get the best of things. The premiere classes, and the most money, usually happen in places like Las Vegas, New York, and Atlantic City. It is the rare weekend when a truly meaningful fight in the U.S. market isn’t happening here.

This is one of those weekends, and the action has not strayed far. The anticipated, HBO televised, Light Heavyweight clash between Chad Dawson and Jean Pascal will happen in Montreal. Given its place as a known North American hot spot, it’s close enough to the U.S. to be a negligible difference. [Click Here To Read More]

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Should be a good fight second time around

[Shadows]

Good article, Cliff.

The first was close, I had Moreno by a point due to the point deduction.

There was a lot of paint on the canvas, and I believe Moreno's shoes had to be taped because the soles were coming off. The same thing happened in Adamek-Arreola, which wasn't long after the first fight, IIRC.

[edgarg]

This fight is generally expected to be a very hot item, a grudge match, since, as well as the one deducted point -by a Panamanian ref- in Venezuela making it officially a draw, the consensus of the local Panamanian TV viewers, the ones I've been speaking to anyway, was that Ceremeno won the fight, and was robbed.

So I already have tickets, for myself and a few guests, for this Saturday night. The main undercard begins at 8 p.m. but we have to be there not later than 6, as, even though we have tickets prebooked and paid for, (bought in my local pharmacy) it's first come, first served and there's going to be a swarm of fans.

And I've been told not to bring any more money with me than enough for expenses, that to take out more than a few dollars, is asking for trouble.

So all in all, I'm expecting it to be an exciting experience.


There are 15 fights down for decision.

[vick_ramalot]

I thought Moreno won the first fight quite clearly dictating the action from the center of the ring.
As it will be televised on TV-Max are they going to show it to us non Panamenos via their legal live stream?

[truestory1987]

Anybody wanna stream just lemme know

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Anybody wanna stream just lemme know

PM sent. I must see this fight. It took me forever to watch the first one.

[Heru]

I thought Moreno won the first fight quite clearly dictating the action from the center of the ring.
As it will be televised on TV-Max are they going to show it to us non Panamenos via their legal live stream?

Same way I saw it. The commentators can really influence the viewer and this is more evidence of it.

Moreno was the aggressor, landed the cleaner head shots, and was solid defensively. Even in the round where he got hurt, he almost took the round back. Cermeno was reduced to only being able to land clean to the body because he could not land to the head and would get countered by Moreno's counter left to the head or body; sometimes with a hook coming right after it.

Moreno won the early rounds, Cermeno the middle rounds, and Moreno the late rounds.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Same way I saw it. The commentators can really influence the viewer and this is more evidence of it.

Moreno was the aggressor, landed the cleaner head shots, and was solid defensively. Even in the round where he got hurt, he almost took the round back. Cermeno was reduced to only being able to land clean to the body because he could not land to the head and would get countered by Moreno's counter left to the head or body; sometimes with a hook coming right after it.

Moreno won the early rounds, Cermeno the middle rounds, and Moreno the late rounds.

I scored it a draw, as for Cermeno being "reduced to to only landing clean to the body" you have to take into account that he landed A LOT of shots to the mid section, he landed many of them, many. It was hard to score though, but I put a lot into scoring it, I even rewatched certain rounds 4-5 times because I do my best to avoid even rounds, but I'm not against doing that either. Here was my scorecard,

Moreno round 1, 3, 4, 6, 9

Cermeno 2, 7, 8, 10, 11-1 (Point Deduction and rightfully so), 12

Round 5 even (I rewatched this round 5 times).

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I scored it a draw, as for Moreno being "reduced to to only landing clean to the body" you have to take into account that he landed A LOT of shots to the mid section, he landed many of them, many. It was hard to score though, but I put a lot into scoring it, I even rewatched certain rounds 4-5 times because I do my best to avoid even rounds, but I'm not against going that either. Here was my scorecard,

Moreno round 1, 3, 4, 6, 9

Cermeno 2, 7, 8, 10, 11-1 (Point Deduction and rightfully so), 12

Round 5 even (I rewatched this round 5 times).

You mean Cermeno, right?

I ultimately thought it was a close fight. Moreno took the early rounds, Cermeno came back in the middle, and split them going down the stretch. The announcers didn't influence my scoring though, I don't understand Japanese and I can't really understand Spanish.

Cermeno was landing to the body, but Moreno was mixing up his attack well and was even countering Cermeno to the body. I did think that Cermeno's body work started to catch up to Moreno late on, as I feel he finished the stronger and put Moreno on the defensive a lot. Moreno's ****ed up shoes didn't help either. I do think Moreno will have to nullify Cermeno's body attack even more in the rematch, just about the success he had in the fight is due to it.

I don't remember Moreno being hurt, I thought he was stunned though. I thought he was hurt at one point as he sorta skidded across the ring, but it was an issue with his shoes and the paint.

Think I'm gonna rewatch the first fight now.