How good was Antonio Tarver?

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  • Fox McCloud
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    #21
    Originally posted by Scott9945
    I was never a big Tarver fan, but I have to admit that you do make a very good case for him here.
    His wins in the win column are very good.

    The case I presented doesn't really shed a ton of light on his losses, which are the main problems in his career.

    He had no business losing to Eric Harding, considered the supposed talent coming into the fight, and the way the careers ended up. I know he had his jaw broken, but... he was also behind on points when he stopped him in the rematch.

    His first fight with Jones was EASILY winnable, he just couldn't keep his head in the game.

    The Glen Johnson loss was a sham... he won that fight, end of story.

    The Hopkins loss was a huge problem in his career. There was no excuse for what happened that night.

    The Dawson losses aren't a huge deal, he was older, and Dawson is an excellent fight.

    But these little lulls in his career are hard to ignore when figuring out his place in LHW history.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Scott9945
      I was never a big Tarver fan, but I have to admit that you do make a very good case for him here.

      It was a good post he made but I was at the Tarver- Reggie Johnson fight and people forget Tarver got off the deck to win a close decision.

      It wasn't an ass beating.

      Tarver has a quality resume.

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        #23
        Way overrated. Not that impressive at all imo.

        Lol@ having "textbook" technique. The dude looks like a mongoloid when he fights.

        Amateur hour.

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          #24
          Originally posted by jreckoning
          It was a good post he made but I was at the Tarver- Reggie Johnson fight and people forget Tarver got off the deck to win a close decision.

          It wasn't an ass beating.

          Tarver has a quality resume.
          He got off the deck, but there were also just rounds after rounds that he was winning. The split decision was pretty absurd. I'd be okay with a decently close UD, but... the actual result makes it seem like he went life and death, and was thanking god to leave with a win after the judges announced the scores.

          He was PISSED at the judge who scored it against him.

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            #25
            Originally posted by DWiens421
            He got off the deck, but there were also just rounds after rounds that he was winning. The split decision was pretty absurd. I'd be okay with a decently close UD, but... the actual result makes it seem like he went life and death, and was thanking god to leave with a win after the judges announced the scores.

            He was PISSED at the judge who scored it against him.

            Reggie Johnson wasn't a slouch. I remember Reggie walking in the ring with his entourage who were carrying his 5 different regional belts including the Indiana State Title. LOL.

            I thought it was a good fight, and the scoring was fair. I remember having Tarver up 7-5.

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              #26
              Originally posted by jreckoning
              Reggie Johnson wasn't a slouch. I remember Reggie walking in the ring with his entourage who were carrying his 5 different regional belts including the Indiana State Title. LOL.

              I thought it was a good fight, and the scoring was fair. I remember having Tarver up 7-5.
              I know he wasn't a slouch, that's why I'm so impressed that he beat him, clearly in my opinion.

              I just can't justify anyone scoring the fight for Johnson in my mind, which is why the SD pisses me off.

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                #27
                Originally posted by DWiens421
                His wins in the win column are very good.

                The case I presented doesn't really shed a ton of light on his losses, which are the main problems in his career.

                He had no business losing to Eric Harding, considered the supposed talent coming into the fight, and the way the careers ended up. I know he had his jaw broken, but... he was also behind on points when he stopped him in the rematch.

                His first fight with Jones was EASILY winnable, he just couldn't keep his head in the game.

                The Glen Johnson loss was a sham... he won that fight, end of story.

                The Hopkins loss was a huge problem in his career. There was no excuse for what happened that night.

                The Dawson losses aren't a huge deal, he was older, and Dawson is an excellent fight.

                But these little lulls in his career are hard to ignore when figuring out his place in LHW history.
                Yeah, the Hopkins fight just killed his rep. It was humiliating. Same thing happened to Pavlik.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jreckoning
                  Reggie Johnson wasn't a slouch. I remember Reggie walking in the ring with his entourage who were carrying his 5 different regional belts including the Indiana State Title. LOL.

                  I thought it was a good fight, and the scoring was fair. I remember having Tarver up 7-5.
                  Here is a trivia note. That was the last loss of Johnson's career. Assuming of course that he is actually retired now.

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                    #29
                    Very good fighter. As others have said, gets nowhere near the credit that he deserves on here.

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                      #30
                      as LHW, he can be regarded as above averge boxer if not on of those real good ones. as a HW, i see him as an common pro boxer, if he pulled an amazing feat in HW, i wouldnt be surprised though.
                      Last edited by led; 08-12-2010, 08:37 PM. Reason: bad spell

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