I spent all day watching Fights of all the Top JWW's. Victor Ortiz Comes on top

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  • The Surgeon
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    #71
    Originally posted by P-Killer
    Okay let's look at styles. He's a southpaw.

    Ortiz has a sick left, but the only time he sets that up is if you come up to him in the middle or stay close.

    His right is a quick kinda hooking jab, but very obviously. It's not a sharp straight jab.

    So he often comes with that right then elft straight away. His main sucess is when people come up to him, which is the same for Maidana.

    He's pretty flat footed, and Khan can easily exploit it. He needs to stay still to set up his power shots.

    Khan as in the Kotelnik fight will not allow him to set up anything.

    Basically Ortiz's game is very ordinary if you see him on the outside, he needs to get in the isndie and he doesn;t even create that pressure.

    VS Nate I found him very ordinary and he didn;t try for that KO towards a guy who was pretty old looking. His success is only when a guy stands there and does not move.

    Ortiz's style, of bounching around and moving backwards is very bad. He has not got any lacteral movement. His head does not mvoe left anf right either.

    Watch his fights again, not looking at his pure power, but what he does in areas where Khan is strong.

    I personally think it's quite a simple fight for Khan.
    I got Khan too, i think he is the best of this talented bunch

    i just thought the way u dismissed Oriz' chances of hitting him to be off


    I think VO gives them all fits including Amir

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    • borikua
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      #72
      I still got Devon beating all of them.

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      • P-Killer
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        #73
        Originally posted by The Surgeon
        I got Khan too, i think he is the best of this talented bunch

        i just thought the way u dismissed Oriz' chances of hitting him to be off


        I think VO ive them all fits including Amir
        Sorry I don't dismiss him, but I don't see him/his style being a success VS any of the top guys.

        Kotelnik prob block most his shots.
        Madaina again can take his power and dish it out.
        Bradley is just too much for him in every area bar power, and Bradley can take a damn good shot.
        Alexander to me is better in every sense also.

        Ofcoruse Ortiz, Alex and Khan are young and can get better. I think Ortiz looked good at 144 vs some bum, he looekd hug, maybe the weight is too low for him? Not surte but I really can;t see Ortiz being on top.

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        • victorythagr8
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          #74
          Originally posted by borikua
          I still got Devon beating all of them.

          after he got greatly exposed and arguably lost?

          He fought a dumb fight against Urango(was unnecessarily getting hit in the body but he did caught urango with an upper cut)

          After watching his last 2 fights that i realize devon is a talented fighter who right now needs a real trainer because i see that he don't know how to make an adjustment and his corner can't even help him.

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