I spent all day watching Fights of all the Top JWW's. Victor Ortiz Comes on top

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  • Joe2608
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    #61
    Khan and Bradley are the only ones worth talking about.

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    • Gordon Gekko
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      #62
      NSB has turned it's back on Alexander after saturday

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      • Gordon Gekko
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        #63
        It's like Urango never even happened

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        • The Surgeon
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          #64
          When all is said and done Khan will be remembered as the superior fighter from this pack.

          They all have talent tho and i wouldnt rule out any of them beating any of the others

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          • The Surgeon
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            #65
            Originally posted by Gordon Gekko
            It's like Urango never even happened
            Its what have u done for me lately here at NSB lol

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            • P-Killer
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              #66
              Originally posted by _original_
              That can all very well happen sir, until Ortiz lands flush on that china chin and as some poster here put it once we'll see them "new born giraffe legs on full display"
              Yes and Ortiz can land flush on that chin how?

              Even at 140 Khan seems to have a better chin IMO.

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              • The Surgeon
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                #67
                Originally posted by P-Killer
                Yes and Ortiz can land flush on that chin how?

                Even at 140 Khan seems to have a better chin IMO.
                How not? He is quick accurate and skillfull and of good size
                Last edited by The Surgeon; 08-11-2010, 07:56 AM.

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                • BMWM3P
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                  #68
                  Ortiz is a proven quiter when the going gets tough Ortiz gets going. I'll admit he's got good skills but when matched with someone who can take what he can dish out and give some back he'll quit again.

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                  • P-Killer
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by The Surgeon
                    How not? He is quck accurate and skillfull and of good size
                    Okay let's look at styles. He's a southpaw.

                    Ortiz has a sick left, but the only time he sets that up is if you come up to him in the middle or stay close.

                    His right is a quick kinda hooking jab, but very obviously. It's not a sharp straight jab.

                    So he often comes with that right then elft straight away. His main sucess is when people come up to him, which is the same for Maidana.

                    He's pretty flat footed, and Khan can easily exploit it. He needs to stay still to set up his power shots.

                    Khan as in the Kotelnik fight will not allow him to set up anything.

                    Basically Ortiz's game is very ordinary if you see him on the outside, he needs to get in the isndie and he doesn;t even create that pressure.

                    VS Nate I found him very ordinary and he didn;t try for that KO towards a guy who was pretty old looking. His success is only when a guy stands there and does not move.

                    Ortiz's style, of bounching around and moving backwards is very bad. He has not got any lacteral movement. His head does not mvoe left anf right either.

                    Watch his fights again, not looking at his pure power, but what he does in areas where Khan is strong.

                    I personally think it's quite a simple fight for Khan.

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                    • borikua
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by El C@cique@PR
                      I watch fights of bradley, alexander, maidana, Ortiz, Kotelnik, urango, and Guzman

                      From what I see, some of this guys will have problems with some top JWW's do to style alone. but Ortiz seems to have the perfect fight to beat most if not all of the top 140 pounds fighters.

                      Like alexander will have huge problems against Khan, because of Khans accurate jab and foot speed. alexander is fast with his hands but not with his feet and his footwork is off.

                      khan will have huge problems with Bradley, Khans main weapon is his foot speed and Bradley is faster on his feet than khan. Khan also doesnt have much of a inside game, in wich bradley is very good at.

                      Maidana will have problems with alexvnders, right hook and constant movement. Maidanas footwork is horrendus and alexander will cross him move and land right hooks at will.


                      With ortiz the only problem I can see is his heart. If againts guys like Maidana and Urango he keeps his composure and not get drawn into a sluggfest he will outboxed them. against Khan and alexander the only thing he needs to do is put lots of pressure and throw punches in bunches and he will do fine. khan have a shaky chin and alexander can be hit if you put pressure and throw punches(urango and kotelnik fights)
                      The only guy with the style that can cause some problems is Bradley, because of his foot work and inside game. Ortiz inside game needs some work. But other than that i see the kid, pulling this up.


                      I know most if not all in boxingscene will laugh, but thats the conclusion I came with after watching this guys last couple of fights

                      You know you'll make Wazaa cry.

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