If Americans wanted to box, the Klitschkos would be bums....

[Russian Crushin]

Americans are ALWAYS getting owned by Eastern Europeans.

The Klitschkos have destroyed all of the best American heavyweights.

Eastern Europeans already dominate the higher weight classes and are now taking over the lower weight classes too.How does that make you feel?

But why are they dominating? Because thier skills are so good or the Americans are so bad

Cmon besides the Klits there isnt a good HW, american or europeon.

[shadeyfizzle]

I was born in the soviet union and it collapsed in 1991. The 90s were one of the biggest time in HW history.

Thing is you look at the American HW and they arent immpresive at all. Then you look at almost all the Europeon HW and they arent immpresive either.

The decline of the American HW has risen up the Euro HW.

The Europeons didnt get WAY better, the Americans got WAY worse.

Take in account im from the Ukraine and the Klitsare my favorite fighters, so im not bashing them

I'm not even european. I'm simply saying there's no definitive way of comparing the europeans with the americans because the decline of american heavyweights in the past 20 years actually skews the data rather than confirming it.

European heavyweights have always been contenders in the olympics throughout history.

European fighters have been able to compete with the greatest of great american fighters before the iron curtain went up.

So we can never really know for sure whether or not the Ali or fraziers of days past would have been as good as they were had european heavyweights been able to compete professionally during their era.

[Fox McCloud]

Forget Pacquiao, tthe greatest Pinoy fighter of all time was RUFIO!!!

Rufio ducked good competition, preferring to beat up on fat accountants.

When he finally fought an elite fighter, he was killed quickly.

Certainly not as good as you are making him out to be.

[The Hammer]

Don't feed the troll who made this thread.

[infamous larryx]

another racist nationlist thread....wonder why steelhammer apears in all of them

[BoxerDood]

What makes you people so sure that the Americans would beat the Klitschkos? There's absolutely no proof of that. Their dominance has nothing to do with being European or being American. They're just good boxers!

This is a new low...Worse than *******-***** wars because at least those people have mental problems and no lives...Neither Americans or Europeans are superior to eachother. They're all good, and both have gotten a lot of what they learned from the other. For an example, Adamek would have gotten f**ked up by Arreola if he hadn't started using the American boxing style.

[damned1974]

Americans are ALWAYS getting owned by Eastern Europeans.

The Klitschkos have destroyed all of the best American heavyweights.

Eastern Europeans already dominate the higher weight classes and are now taking over the lower weight classes too.

How does that make you feel?

Your logic is skewed....I guess the fact that Klitschko's are from the Ukraine had to do with his losses to Brewster and Puritty,eh? Then of course,a great American coach trained Wlad and his career is now successful...see the double standards?

TBH-there are more divisions than HW,consider the facts that the Americans actually rule more divisions ATM than the Eastern Europeans...idiots like you believe that being born in a specific region automatically makes you superior- it is not the case.

[ShatteredGlass]

What makes you people so sure that the Americans would beat the Klitschkos? There's absolutely no proof of that. Their dominance has nothing to do with being European or being American. They're just good boxers!

This is a new low...Worse than *******-***** wars because at least those people have mental problems and no lives...Neither Americans or Europeans are superior to eachother. Both have gotten most of what they learned from the other. For an example, Adamek would have gotten f**ked up by Arreola if he hadn't started using the American boxing style.

its easy, can you imagine lamon brewster bashing up ali?

how about chris byrd beating the crap out of george foreman and making him quit?

or corrie sanders beating the **** out of evander holyfield and making him crawl around the ring on all fours like a DOG

[Russian Crushin]

I'm not even european. I'm simply saying there's no definitive way of comparing the europeans with the americans because the decline of american heavyweights in the past 20 years actually skews the data rather than confirming it.

European heavyweights have always been contenders in the olympics throughout history.

European fighters have been able to compete with the greatest of great american fighters before the iron curtain went up.

So we can never really know for sure whether or not the Ali or fraziers of days past would have been as good as they were had european heavyweights been able to compete professionally during their era.

Yes i agree. but when you look at the HW division, did the europeon fighter just simply beat and overmatch great american HW or did the HW division in the US severly weaken?

Its sad that the HW american savior was at 1 time a man 6'2, 260 pounds who didnt like to train and drank beer during training camp.

[Russian Crushin]

What makes you people so sure that the Americans would beat the Klitschkos? There's absolutely no proof of that. Their dominance has nothing to do with being European or being American. They're just good boxers!

This is a new low...Worse than *******-***** wars because at least those people have mental problems and no lives...Neither Americans or Europeans are superior to eachother. They're all good, and both have gotten a lot of what they learned from the other. For an example, Adamek would have gotten f**ked up by Arreola if he hadn't started using the American boxing style.

Oh no the the Klits are Great, i have nothing against them, but other then them there isnt another great HW

Cmon Tony thompson, Arreola, and Johnson are the top americans, something is wrong