Sulfur + Calcium + Oxygen=Plaster of Paris [ MARGARITO = GUILTY]FACTS = Irrefutable

[Pacquiao'd]

jack hates his beloved cheaterito is being called cheato.

jro will argue this as well

[Franco2012]

report this **** in your troll mouth

Get a life troller!

[Horus]

First off it's Eaner please get it correct thanks.

and no what I am doing is correcting you on something plain as day because as you put the statement that gauze must be fresh seemed to have been a major point in trying to prove yourself as fact

but nowhere within CSAC's rules does it state that the materials used have to be fresh just within the guidelines of how to wrap correct?

in fact Horus let me ask you this because I think you live in LA

when was the last time you were in a boxing gym watching the game unfold? if so then you surely must have seen the inserts that Capetillo used because it's quite commonplace to see pads. Last week alone I went to three gyms Maywood Sergio Mora's and Arreolas gym and each one had fighters or trainers who use pads.

when asked, because thats what I do when a friend of mine gets into trouble, a lot of trainers have told me that they use these inserts beause it saves time, it molds to the knuckles making it more comfortable and commissions don't really mind.

so while yes Margarito and his team did something illegal and was caught doing so

stop using the aspect that materials need to be fresh when I clearly showed you they dont

thanks

Eaner,

In my last post I admitted you were correct on the "fresh" comment.

Ironically, if we are to believe Capetillo, the result of not requiring
"Fresh" wraps might end up in a trainer inserting old Sulfur + Calcium bloody wraps onto a fighters hands. Which is illegal. Imagine if he would had to used fresh wraps? we wouldnt have this problem


*those same wraps that broke a couple bones in his sparring partner face, during training camp.*

Why would a fighter want to used old wraps anyways is still a Mystery to me.
**** if they can used old wraps why not old gloves?

**** it all, why not let them used whatever makes them feel comfortable during training camp for the actual fight?

Why should commission regulate these matters there just wraps?

[r ! z]

Get a life troller!

i dont even know who the **** you are to be talking to me

[Nuurzhaelan]

So Mosley wasn't in the P4P ratings and then beats #7 P4P Margarito. That moves him up to 3?? He didn't deserve that spot, specially with the INACTIVITY he had.

FACT MOSLEY CHEATED, Floyd gave him his biggest payday. Pac gives it to one and he's the enemy. Don't forget Mosley got away with it too. Didn't pay no suspension or nothing while Margs did.

At best that means that Mosley does not deserve his fights or paydays and should have been suspended, not that margachito should not have been punished as he has.

Still, I would not condemn PEDs as much as weapons in the ring. Oh, you'll contend that the wraps were soft, blah blah blah. I will argue that the reason there are precise rules for the materials used and their application to the fighters' hands is because of how much a little bit can affect the punching power. Ten ounce gloves versus Eight ounce gloves. Do you know how much a pound is? It's pretty insignificant, at least to me. It feels like nothing. Now divide that insignificance by 8 **16 ounces in a pound) for the 2 ounce difference between 8 and 10 ounce gloves).

There is a good reason that higher weight divisions, with special exceptions, mandate 10 ounce gloves for higher weight divisions. Two ounces is significant, evidently VERY significant.

Wasn't Trinidad in trouble for allegedly wrapping his hands incorrectly? The story is muddied at best, but all that was ever found there were the proper materials and supposedly just THAT stuff is what hopkins' camp argued was done incorrectly and they wanted it changed. It could have been to mess with Trinidad's concentration or it could have been a legitimate complaint. But...Richardson is also the guy who caught margachito's attempted cheating. Raises questions all around.

What I am getting at, though, is that incorrectly wrapping hands is probably more dangerous to the opposing fighter than PEDs, at least in terms of damage per connect.

[HARLEM AL]

Instead of staying on topic you dudes got floyd d1ck in yall mouth.

[Horus]

At best that means that Mosley does not deserve his fights or paydays and should have been suspended, not that margachito should not have been punished as he has.

Still, I would not condemn PEDs as much as weapons in the ring. Oh, you'll contend that the wraps were soft, blah blah blah. I will argue that the reason there are precise rules for the materials used and their application to the fighters' hands is because of how much a little bit can affect the punching power. Ten ounce gloves versus Eight ounce gloves. Do you know how much a pound is? It's pretty insignificant, at least to me. It feels like nothing. Now divide that insignificance by 8 **16 ounces in a pound) for the 2 ounce difference between 8 and 10 ounce gloves).

There is a good reason that higher weight divisions, with special exceptions, mandate 10 ounce gloves for higher weight divisions. Two ounces is significant, evidently VERY significant.

Wasn't Trinidad in trouble for allegedly wrapping his hands incorrectly? The story is muddied at best, but all that was ever found there were the proper materials and supposedly just THAT stuff is what hopkins' camp argued was done incorrectly and they wanted it changed. It could have been to mess with Trinidad's concentration or it could have been a legitimate complaint. But...Richardson is also the guy who caught margachito's attempted cheating. Raises questions all around.

What I am getting at, though, is that incorrectly wrapping hands is probably more dangerous to the opposing fighter than PEDs, at least in terms of damage per connect.

And yet we have people in this thread arguing for sympathy for Margarito.
In this combat sport.

[PsYcHoDaD]

jack haters his beloved cheaterito is being called cheato.

jro will argue this as well

What do the lady's at the club think about this topic?

[Eaner0919]

Eaner,

In my last post I admitted you were correct on the "fresh" comment.

Ironically, if we are to believe Capetillo, the result of not requiring
"Fresh" wraps might end up in a trainer inserting old Sulfur + Calcium bloody wraps onto a fighters hands. Which is illegal. Imagine if he would had to used fresh wraps? we wouldnt have this problem

ever think that maybe the substances on those pads were put on the day of the fight rather than been there for a while? I think I read where they noticed a discoloring of the pads and if it had been there all this time wouldn't logic dictate that it also absorb into the pad andbe uniform in color with it?

*those same wraps that broke a couple bones in his sparring partner face, during training camp.*

I debunked the **** out of what Rashad states there is a thread about it go read it

and want to know how sure of what I stated?

I sent my letter stating that Holloway is lying to NSAC signed and noted and will do the same if asked by CSAC to do the same

I was there

it was an accident

Why would a fighter want to used old wraps anyways is still a Mystery to me.
**** if they can used old wraps why not old gloves?

because of why I told you

a lot of trainers reuse pads when wrapping

and Horus you really must not go to too many fights

EVERY promoter I know reuses gloves. At roughly 150 per pair they have to. Sometimes for 2-3 fight cards

lol

**** it all, why not let them used whatever makes them feel comfortable during training camp for the actual fight?

stop being all dramatic I already stated they tried to cheat relax on the extremities lol

Why should commission regulate these matters there just wraps?

did you mean they are just wraps?

here is the thing

you equate everything I state as to being allowed to cheat when nothing of the sort is true

you state because someone reuses pads then they cheat and I tell you trainers have been doing this for years and years

you then make reference to the use of old gloves yet every promoter reuses the gloves AND

did you know CSAC has an actual rule about reusing gloves?

it's in the same section you found the materials rules

[Horus]

What really bothers me is that he has
Never expressed a smidgen of remorse.

He has never done anything more than he had too
To proved his innocence. Only the bare minimum.

Which truly shook me because IMO, if I was accused
Of the things Margarito was accused of and suspended for.

I would have done and gone beyond and above the required actions
To prove my innocence.

I would have demanded to take a lie detector test of me and capetillo to proved at some level who is telling the truth
I would have sued Capetillo and curse his name.
I would have publically apologize to my fans and Shane Mosley for the action
That almost took place.
I would ask for criminal charges be place on capetillo and the inspector for not noticing the wraps capetillo place on my hands.

and finally I would raise so much hell until the public knew I was really
was innocence and that the man who framed man should be punish.

But Margarito has done none of that.
He still chills with capetillo
no lawsuit
no nothing..

His actions indicates to me he is guilty.