Is Floyd Mayweather Jr A ''All Time Great''

[Cash Cow]

Yup, exactly.

It's his boxing brains and his elusiveness, he's REALLY smart in the ring, which is why i don't see anyone in our era that could really beat him. The problem is he never tried everybody, especially Cotto in his prime, hehe

Too bad Judah never disciplined himself enough so we could really see a fight of 2 greats. he did get far though.

No way any version of Miguel Cotto from 2007 would've been any match for Mayweather....ALSO REMEMBER COTTO WASNT READY FOR MAYWEATHER IN 2005 WHEN THEY WERE BOTH CHAMPS AT 140 AND BOTH PROMOTED BY TOP RANK. I mean he wasnt ready right? So between 2005 & by the time he fought Mosley in 2007 Paul Malignaggi, Carlos Quintana, Oktay Urkal, & Zab Judah were the preparation he needed to be ready for Mayweather?? Gimme a break....

Since being smashed my Pacquiao, he FINALLY beat an ACTUAL World Champ and didnt get a Championship by winning a Vacant title when he defeated the Hard Hitting/1 Legged Yuri Foreman who has an impressive 8 ko's......I appreciate Miguel Cotto and he has had great fights but he has always been just a decent fighter and never was the elite type fighter to impose any kind of legitimate threat to Floyd Mayweather.

His best win is a disputed victory over Shane Mosley who just dropped back down to WW and didnt have a title. It took him 37 fights to FINALLY beat an ACTUAL World Champ and even then the caliber of that opponent is c class at best. I respect Cotto for all that he has provided us boxing fans but just because you are a warrior and are tough in no way equates to you having the necessary skill set and smarts to beat Mayweather.

[Squizz]

Of course he is. Anyone who argues otherwise, is an idiot.

[evil-lad]

couldve, wouldve doesnt count.

[Cash Cow]

tsyzu tried to make the fight happen. the guy was on the shelf for a long time trying to make the fight happen. he can only do so much. if the duckers at hbo don't want to fight him they can just say oh hes at showtime sorry! of course its possible to make. not easy but possible. mayweather took the easy way out. it was just a lot easier to fight 2 eliminators to get to a guy he called a paper champ. thats basically the story of his career. yeah he could fight the tough fights but its just easier not to.

you originally said it was his goal to fight tszyu. if it was his goal he sure didn't act like it. tsyzu at least tried but they needed both fighters to try if the fight was to materialize. didn't happen.

[Tha_Greatest]

good its a public thread once again we'll see if Mayweather haters can step over the hate and be fair

in america he is, lol, internationally hes probably not, lol, now i was fair as the american public wants me to be, lol, hes a legend in the us but every other nation thinks of him as a real good hall of famer who was undefeated and chicked out against the greater fighters from other countries or cherry picked opponents aswell, lol, nyahahahaha **** u south central car, lolfloyd is ****in gay, lol, nyahaha

[sunny31]

79...79!!

What a disgrace!

Floyd is one of the very best fighters to ever lace them up, on ability for me he is in the top 10, on accomplishments somewhere in the top 50. He has not fought enough great-special fighters to warrant being compared to the best of the best, and my fear is that he never will because of his attitude to measure risk vs reward. On that basis I don't see him ever cracking the top 10. I think a Pacquiao win and a Martinez win, would put him around the top 10-15, it is always interesting to see the various opinions on a thread like this. But still...too many haters, I don't like Floyd Mayweather, but to say he is not an ATG is hilarious.

[bojangles1987]

I can't believe there were a few posts saying Floyd isn't an ATG because ATG is thrown around too easily. Boxing has been around for more than a hundred years or so, and has featured hundreds of great fighters.

Most people say top 100 is ATG. In a sport with the history boxing has that sounds about right, if anything we'll eventually have to expand that to top 120 or top 130 because new ATGs will push out guys who are still ATG, but won't make the top 100. Saying that the top 30 fighters are the only ATGs is really unfair, because the sport has changed so much that the top 30 may never change. It's hard to envision guys today being able to accomplish what fighters used to accomplish. Doesn't mean they aren't among the all-time greats.

[Rolaz]

What are the CRITERIA(Internationally Accepted) that will qualify a certain Boxer to be ATG?

[STREET CLEANER]

I say no, he is missing that one big fight which is within his reach and hasn't happened.

For me his biggest win was against Corrales. Great fighter but hasn't challenged himself

[LeG00N]

I say no, he is missing that one big fight which is within his reach and hasn't happened.