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  • Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
    the main point still stands. tszyu and the hbo fighters were never gonna happen. and tszyu did exactly what everyone of the hbo fighters did, go along with the network supporting them. he didnt leave showtime, he didnt try to negotiate with hbo (making **** up). he expressed interest and then stated it was unlikely because of the different networks (which is btw the same thing floyd said). so yea, dont make **** up.
    tsyzu tried to make the fight happen. the guy was on the shelf for a long time trying to make the fight happen. he can only do so much. if the duckers at hbo don't want to fight him they can just say oh hes at showtime sorry! of course its possible to make. not easy but possible. mayweather took the easy way out. it was just a lot easier to fight 2 eliminators to get to a guy he called a paper champ. thats basically the story of his career. yeah he could fight the tough fights but its just easier not to.

    you originally said it was his goal to fight tszyu. if it was his goal he sure didn't act like it. tsyzu at least tried but they needed both fighters to try if the fight was to materialize. didn't happen.
    Last edited by daggum; 11-11-2011, 01:20 AM.

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    • Originally posted by daggum View Post
      tsyzu tried to make the fight happen. the guy was on the shelf for a long time trying to make the fight happen. he can only do so much. if the duckers at hbo don't want to fight him they can just say oh hes at showtime sorry! of course its possible to make. not easy but possible. mayweather took the easy way out. it was just a lot easier to fight 2 eliminators to get to a guy he called a paper champ. thats basically the story of his career. yeah he could fight the tough fights but its just easier not to.

      you originally said it was his goal to fight tszyu. if it was his goal he sure didn't act like it. tsyzu at least tried but they needed both fighters to try if the fight was to materialize. didn't happen.
      tszyu tried to make the fight happen? as much as who? did he leave showtime? did he go to hbo? he was the only top 140 at showtime. so how much did he try to make the fight happen? lol. ur funny. listen to wat ur saying. expressing interest in a fight is not trying to make a fight happen. there were never any negotiations. which means there was no chance of a fight happening.

      floyd never had a chance to fight tszyu, its that simple. im convinced if he knew that fight was still out there, he wouldnt have left 140 after gatti. how u call floyd ducking tszyu is beyond me.

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      • Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
        tszyu tried to make the fight happen? as much as who? did he leave showtime? did he go to hbo? he was the only top 140 at showtime. so how much did he try to make the fight happen? lol. ur funny. listen to wat ur saying. expressing interest in a fight is not trying to make a fight happen. there were never any negotiations. which means there was no chance of a fight happening.

        floyd never had a chance to fight tszyu, its that simple. im convinced if he knew that fight was still out there, he wouldnt have left 140 after gatti. how u call floyd ducking tszyu is beyond me.
        convinced by what? his long history of taking on the best? oh wait....he left 140 to fight mitchell who just lost to tszyu, a judah who just lost to a journeyman and then that same journeyman. then he demanded 10 million dollars to fight cotto when that's how much he got to face delahoya. i didnt know cotto was on delahoyas level. its such a coincidence that all the best fights never take place when floyd is around. weird huh.

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        • Of course he is... just how great though.... who knows. top 50 for sure though.

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          • Originally posted by Born2Live View Post
            6 time world champion in 5 different weight classes warrants that I'd think.
            i believe so too.....

            just hope floyd does more to erase any doubts on other people's mind...

            i'll put him somewhere top 40

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            • Originally posted by tangalog2200 View Post
              i believe so too.....

              just hope floyd does more to erase any doubts on other people's mind...

              i'll put him somewhere top 40
              how can he erase the doubts if he only continues to fight the baldomirs and ortiz's of the world. the 1 win wonders who never amount to anything. doesn't he have to beat some really good established fighters eventually? we might as well call canelo a great because he's doing the same thing.

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              • Give it a couple of years after he retires and when the fans died down. At that time, we can judge him fairly.

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                • First of all it's "an", and yes he is.

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                  • All time great?... Yes unfortunally, due to his own doing he will not be considered as great as he could had been... Top 50 ...Sure...Top 25 not a chance on the other hand Pac will be considered top 25 and Floyd had the tools to beat him...

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                    • no, is not!!!!!!!!

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