How many who crucified Froch getting the win over Dirrell think Alexander won?

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  • BoxerDood
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    #11
    There's a difference. In the 7 rounds that Dirrell clearly beat Froch, he completely outdid him in every category. He threw AND landed more punches, landed the harder punches along with making Froch swing at air.

    BUT in the close Alexander-Kotelnik rounds, Kotelnik was landing, but not enough. I look at it the same way I look at the close Dawson-Johnson I rounds. You can't land 6 hard punches but get tagged by 20 smaller punches and say you won the round. Kotelnik's slow start is what caused him to lose. He gave up a lot of rounds that he could have won if he was more active. I had it 115-113 Alexander.

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    • KILLA RIGHT
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      #12
      Dirrell ran kotelnik didn't. You can't compare

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        #13
        Originally posted by BoxerDood
        There's a difference. In the 7 rounds that Dirrell clearly beat Froch, he completely outdid him in every category. He threw AND landed more punches, landed the harder punches along with making Froch swing at air.

        BUT in the close Alexander-Kotelnik rounds, Kotelnik was landing, but not enough. I look at it the same way I look at the close Dawson-Johnson I rounds. You can't land 6 hard punches but get tagged by 20 smaller punches and say you won the round. Kotelnik's slow start is what caused him to lose. He gave up a lot of rounds that he could have won if he was more active. I had it 115-113 Alexander.
        I agree...Dirrell fought like a ***** that night and it was ugly but I thought he was clearly winning...gotta score it to be sure though

        I agree with how you viewed last night's bout as well...

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        • bojangles1987
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          #14
          Originally posted by BoxerDood
          There's a difference. In the 7 rounds that Dirrell clearly beat Froch, he completely outdid him in every category. He threw AND landed more punches, landed the harder punches along with making Froch swing at air.

          BUT in the close Alexander-Kotelnik rounds, Kotelnik was landing, but not enough. I look at it the same way I look at the close Dawson-Johnson I rounds. You can't land 6 hard punches but get tagged by 20 smaller punches and say you won the round. Kotelnik's slow start is what caused him to lose. He gave up a lot of rounds that he could have won if he was more active. I had it 115-113 Alexander.
          But he didn't land 20 small punches to every 6 hard punches. Check the punch stats, there were only 5 rounds where Alexander even outlanded Kotelnik, and of course we all know Kotelnik landed more overall.

          I just want to know how people can say Dirrell was robbed because of how much Froch was missing but they don't care that Alexander missed just as much. There are plenty of people I saw last night saying Alexander won who think Dirrell was robbed.

          Froch-Dirrell was closer than Alexander-Kotelnik, I definitely agree with that.

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          • Boss Don
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            #15
            Dirrell was robbed against Froch

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            • Squizz
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              #16
              Originally posted by Ray*
              I scored the fight to Froch...
              Locaction: London, England

              Geez, I wonder why. No way Froch won that fight. That was a hometown decision if I EVER saw one.

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              • Squizz
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                #17
                Originally posted by KILLA RIGHT
                Dirrell ran kotelnik didn't. You can't compare
                Sure Dirrell ran, but he also out-landed Froch by a wide margin. He fought smart, and effectively, and because of that, he deserved to win.

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                • REMOVED SHARK 97
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                  #18
                  Dirrell got robbed in Nottingham and Froch got had in Denmark.

                  Ward got robbed by... owe ya he's too much of a wimp to fight outside of his hometown, well until Dirrell storms into town and puts on a boxing clinic.

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                  • GoogleMe
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                    #19
                    Good similarity.

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                    • BillyBoxing
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by bojangles1987
                      I see many of the people who thought Dirrell clearly beat Froch saying Alexander beat Kotelnik. Those same people who talked about how Froch wasn't landing and Dirrell landed all the clean punches are now defending Alexander getting outlanded just because he threw more, though just like Dirrell Kotelnik landed more and landed harder. That's serious hypocrisy.

                      For those who fall under this category, explain how going backwards, getting outlanded, and getting hit by a big majority of the clean punches deserves a win but going forward, getting outlanded, and getting hit by most of the clean punches mean the guy got outboxed?

                      For the record, I thought Dirrell won clearly and I think Kotelnik won clearly.

                      Those people are some biased US fans,Adolph Burner heading the list.

                      Berto vs Collazo.
                      Alexander vs Kotelnik
                      Williams vs Martinez
                      Dawson vs Johnson 1.

                      American fighters fighter always get the nod in a disputed fight.

                      The only exemple countering that fact is Calzaghe vs Hopkins.
                      And Calzaghe really dominated Hopkins in the last rounds.

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