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  • johnm is...
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    #31
    Originally posted by MARKBNLV
    Come on John the first fight i would have had no problem with a draw or even a 1 point edge by cloud 116-112 was pure bull**** though,as for Kotelnik he landed all the hard shots anything Alexander was throwing was being blocked or coming up short.
    I feel ya, homie. I'm just saying. "Robbery" gets thrown around too much on these boards. While I don't completely agree with the scorecards, I don't think anyone got robbed.

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    • MARKBNLV
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      #32
      Originally posted by Vito Corleone
      My dude, how did you score the fights?
      Johnson by a point or a draw would have been acceptable,and i had Kotelnik winning by 2-3 rds.

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      • MARKBNLV
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        #33
        Originally posted by johnm
        I feel ya, homie. I'm just saying. "Robbery" gets thrown around too much on these boards. While I don't completely agree with the scorecards, I don't think anyone got robbed.
        I do for the fact that Johnson lost his chance at a big payday at 41 he cannot just sit around and wait for another shot.

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        • -Kev-
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          #34
          Originally posted by Kevin Malone
          Horrible comparison. Kotelnik overall landed more punches. I haven't seen anyone say that Kotelnik won because he landed a larger percentage, but he won because he landed the cleaner and harder shots, and he landed more shots overall.
          Alexander threw almost 700 more punches than Kotelnik. Judges don't go by compubox stat, they can not get influenced by that. They don't have a compubox stat machine in front of them. I say this because maybe they saw more than 200 punches landed on Kotelnik than what Compbox shows. You know like out of 1100 punches maybe they could have seen half of those as landed punches. They could have just been influenced by Alexander's workrate. When you outwork your opponent, no matter how accurate he is, you give yourself a chance to win the fight on workrate alone(no matter how horrible your accuracy is), and you give the chance the impression that as the champion you want to win the fight because you're staying busy throwing punches and bringing the fight to the challenger.

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          • -Kev-
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            #35
            You can NOT, I repeat, Can NOT beat the CHAMPION if you let him throw 700 punches more than you and let him outwork you. As the CHALLENGER, you almost(when I say almost I mean damn near every time) always have to do MORE than the CHAMPION. By doing more it doesn't mean to throw less and land more. More as in THROW MORE, be BUSIER, don't just stand there BLOCKING and think the judges will give you the fight because you BLOCKED a lot of punches and LANDED at a higher percentage than the CHAMPION.

            Sorry, but it does not work that way.

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              #36
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Alexander threw almost 700 more punches than Kotelnik. Judges don't go by compubox stat, they can not get influenced by that. They don't have a compubox stat machine in front of them. I say this because maybe they saw more than 200 punches landed on Kotelnik than what Compbox shows. You know like out of 1100 punches maybe they could have seen half of those as landed punches. They could have just been influenced by Alexander's workrate. When you outwork your opponent, no matter how accurate he is, you give yourself a chance to win the fight on workrate alone(no matter how horrible your accuracy is), and you give the chance the impression that as the champion you want to win the fight because you're staying busy throwing punches and bringing the fight to the challenger.
              Two of the 3 judges had no championship fight experience it was set up from the door,just like Kings handpicked judges in the Kotelnik fight,i do know one thing 6 judges went home with stuffed wallets.

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              • Motofan
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                #37
                The winners on my score cards lost in both fights. I was pretty pissed for Glen getting the short end of the stick yet again.

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                • MARKBNLV
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Motofan
                  The winners on my score cards lost in both fights. I was pretty pissed for Glen getting the short end of the stick yet again.
                  Yea i was pretty fcking livid.

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                    #39
                    Yawn...two close fights, not robberies.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by RSBonos
                      Yawn...two close fights, not robberies.
                      They are robberies when the judges give each fighter a 4 rd victory.

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