Boxing should be ashamed

[boxaholic]

Man stfu both fights were close i had both of them 115-113 for the same fighters that won

I concur with your assesment

[Kevin Malone]

Even though I had Kotelnik 8-4 I don't think it was a robbery, it was just really bad judging.

I had Cloud winning 7-5 though I wouldn't have had a problem with it going the other way...

[MARKBNLV]

Man stfu both fights were close i had both of them 115-113 for the same fighters that won

Both fights were draws or wins for the challengers,116-112 across the board come on now.

[MARKBNLV]

I wouldnt call the Cloud Johnson fight a robbery i think either Cloud just edged it out or a draw should have been given. As far as the Kotelnik fight i guess some people judge on activity but in my opinion Alexander hit gloves most of the time when he threw and Kotelnik landed the cleaner more effective punches and seemed to be the one in control for most of the fight.

Alexander was not landing anything,those judges are fcking blind.

[Biolink]

I thought Cloud won by a round, maybe a draw, but I edged the fight to Cloud. He hit Johnson with bigger shots. Johnson hit more jabs and glancing shots.

By all means though I believe Alexander lost to Kotelnik

[-Kev-]

I scored Johnson-Cloud the same as Lederman, a draw. I thought 116-112 on all cards was kinda BS. But hey it was a close fight and they gave it to Cloud. No complaint. I had points down on Johnson but I can't really be mad because this was just a coin toss type of decision. It was not a robbery at all.

Alexander-Kotelnik, I thought Lederman's results were bull****. Kotelnik won more than 2 rounds, but he didn't win the fight. Alexander was the busier man. Yeah Kotelnik caught Alexander when he threw, but Alexander comes back with 4-5 punches. I don't care if it just hits glove. Pacquiao hit glove all night against Clottey and no one complained about him? Clottey threw 300 punches and landed 70, he had Pacquiao's face all busted up. But the thing is Pacquiao was the busier man, throwing 1200 and landing just 200. You need to be more busy against a champion you can't let him outwork you.

Alexander landed the more meaningful shots landing/throwing 138/466 power shots while Kotelnik landed/threw 109/366 power shots. You guys that diss pitty pat punches and give the fighter who threw the more meaningful punches the benefit of the doubt, how come you're not doing that here too? I mean those who defended the robbery of Froch/Dirrell said that Froch landed the more meaningful punches and was making the fight happen. Alexander threw 1113 punches and landed 202..Almost identical numbers to what Pacquiao did to Clottey(Alexander landed at a better percentage) and everyone defends Pacquiao's win?

[MARKBNLV]

You think the scores were wide. OK. But the term "robbery" gets thrown around here so much it makes me wonder if people would know an actual robbery if it bit them in the face.

Come on John the first fight i would have had no problem with a draw or even a 1 point edge by cloud 116-112 was pure bull**** though,as for Kotelnik he landed all the hard shots anything Alexander was throwing was being blocked or coming up short.

[Safety]

I should have known as soon as i saw Don King.

Glen won that damn fight!!!!!!!!

[Kevin Malone]

Pacquiao hit glove all night against Clottey and no one complained about him? Clottey threw 300 punches and landed 70, he had Pacquiao's face all busted up. But the thing is Pacquiao was the busier man, throwing 1200 and landing just 200.

Horrible comparison. Kotelnik overall landed more punches. I haven't seen anyone say that Kotelnik won because he landed a larger percentage, but he won because he landed the cleaner and harder shots, and he landed more shots overall.

[MARKBNLV]

I scored Johnson-Cloud the same as Lederman, a draw. I thought 116-112 on all cards was kinda BS. But hey it was a close fight and they gave it to Cloud. No complaint. I had points down on Johnson but I can't really be mad because this was just a coin toss type of decision. It was not a robbery at all.

Alexander-Kotelnik, I thought Lederman's results were bull****. Kotelnik won more than 2 rounds, but he didn't win the fight. Alexander was the busier man. Yeah Kotelnik caught Alexander when he threw, but Alexander comes back with 4-5 punches. I don't care if it just hits glove. Pacquiao hit glove all night against Clottey and no one complained about him? Clottey threw 300 punches and landed 70, he had Pacquiao's face all busted up. But the thing is Pacquiao was the busier man, throwing 1200 and landing just 200. You need to be more busy against a champion you can't let him outwork you.

Alexander landed the more meaningful shots landing/throwing 138/466 power shots while Kotelnik landed/threw 109/366 power shots. You guys that diss pitty pat punches and give the fighter who threw the more meaningful punches the benefit of the doubt, how come you're not doing that here too? I mean those who defended the robbery of Froch/Dirrell said that Froch landed the more meaningful punches and was making the fight happen. Alexander threw 1113 punches and landed 202..Almost identical numbers to what Pacquiao did to Clottey(Alexander landed at a better percentage) and everyone defends Pacquiao's win?

Its like Max said during the fight who would you rather be and especially in the Kotelnik fight i would rather be Kotelnik.