Chad Dawson is the Best Fighter in Boxing

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Whats the height limit for the following weight classes:

WW
JMW
MW


Thanks in advance.

I like how you tried to change the subject of the argument because you're incapable of arguing the point at hand.

But we can both play this game.

How many fighters at 6'3 have ever fought below 154, which Williams has?

I'll wait.

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I like how you tried to change the subject of the argument because you're incapable of arguing the point at hand.

But we can both play this game.

How many fighters at 6'3 have ever fought below 154, which Williams has?

I'll wait.

How about Hearns?

[Hannibal Barca]

How about Hearns?

Hearn's was smaller than Williams. Williams has superior reach, is lankier, longer wing span, etc. Furthermore, Hearn's eventually fought north of 160, weighing in as high as 190 for bouts.

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Hearn's was smaller than Williams. Williams has superior reach, is lankier, longer wing span, etc. Furthermore, Hearn's eventually fought north of 160, weighing in as high as 190 for bouts.

Key word...

Eventually.

I knwo you only watch Floyd but there is a guy named Ali Funeka and Cellestino Caballero.

Cab is at 126 and Funeka is at 135. Both tall as ****. Go watch more boxing.

Now again what is the height limit for JMW, WW and MW?

Please tell me.

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That's true, and I understand that(even though I hate fights with severe size discrepancies), but do me a favor if you will. List as many athletes as you can, not just boxers, who are around 6'3 and weigh less than 160. My bet is that you can't name more than 5, because it isn't natural, and in most cases, it's unhealthy.

TBH, off the top of my head, I can't.

I do know that there have been fighters in the past (and present) who have weighed as low as 118 and being upwards of 5'11, which is comparable.

Panama Al Brown and Celestino Caballero being the two that come to mind, though Al Brown fought many, many years ago.

EDIT: Is 6'1 close enough to 6'3 for you? Angel Granados and Ali Funeka come to mind.....Granados is 6'1 and has fought as low at SFW. Off the top of my head, that's what I got for you.

[Hannibal Barca]

Key word...

Eventually.

I knwo you only watch Floyd but there is a guy named Ali Funeka and Cellestino Caballero.

Cab is at 126 and Funeka is at 135. Both tall as ****. Go watch more boxing.

Now again what is the height limit for JMW, WW and MW?

Please tell me.

Were you not just arguing that Paul couldn't add 15LBS to a 6'3 frame because it'd make him "fat"? Don't try and back track with the "eventually" nonsense now.

Burner, stop with this "you only watch Floyd nonsense". You're an infamous fanboy/idiot, quit with the charades.

Neither of which are 6'3. Try and answer the questions presented son.

I'll show you.

There are no height limits in boxing, but there is something stunningly pathetic about a 6'3 fighter preying on tremendously smaller fighters.

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TBH, off the top of my head, I can't.

I do know that there have been fighters in the past (and present) who have weighed as low as 118 and being upwards of 5'11, which is comparable.

Panama Al Brown and Celestino Caballero being the two that come to mind, though Al Brown fought many, many years ago.

EDIT: Is 6'1 close enough to 6'3 for you? Angel Granados and Ali Funeka come to mind.....Granados is 6'1 and has fought as low at SFW. Off the top of my head, that's what I got for you.

Panama Al Brown and Celestino Caballero are both 5'10-5'11, and I don't sweat PAB as much as I do current fighters because knowledge on health and nutritional science were primitive in his time(70 years ago). It was much harder to lose and gain the weight you wanted, all the while maintaining speed and quickness, while adding power and durability.

Caballero definitely needs to move up in my opinion though.

There's a tremendous difference between 6'1 and 6'3, but I acknowledge your point.

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Panama Al Brown and Celestino Caballero are both 5'10-5'11, and I don't sweat PAB as much as I do current fighters because knowledge on health and nutritional science were primitive in his time(70 years ago). It was much harder to lose and gain the weight you wanted, all the while maintaining speed and quickness, while adding power and durability.

Caballero definitely needs to move up in my opinion though.

There's a tremendous difference between 6'1 and 6'3, but I acknowledge your point.

When you said around 6'3, I thought I might give it a shot.

Fair enough though, I see your points.

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who in the HELL ever said Cloud or Alexander was the "BEST"

Bradley is the best at 140 and Chad Dawson is the best 175...PERIOD, that is how I always felt and I am a die hard Alexander fight but I like Timothy Bradley as well and I think at 26 he is more seasoned then the rest at 140 RIGHT NOW!

Alexander is still has a great future and will go on to do big things no matter what a few people on this Forum thinks about him, what should Alexander just retire? he is 23 can he not improve? the guy has a lot of talent and a lot of skills to work with he just need to work on his defense and his head movement dude showed HEART and a strong chin against Kotelnik, hate on him now all you want but Alexander will be around for a LONG TIME

as for Cloud, I never thought he was on Dawson level, this was his first big test and he got the win but he still has a lot of things to work on as well but to be fair to him, what have you seen ANYONE just run over Glen Johnson, that man is a Old Warrior, he brings the BEST out of EVERYONE he fights

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When you said around 6'3, I thought I might give it a shot.

Fair enough though, I see your points.

Great discussion.

My issue with Paul Williams is, he's made a living of poaching on tremendously smaller fighters. There's no reason a 6'3 fighter should be challenging fighters who are 5'7, it's a complete and utter mismatch. Thus, he shouldn't be mentioned in the same breath as fighters like Chad Dawson, who's actually fighting fighters his size.

In my opinion, Williams shouldn't be fighting under 160. With his size, if he's as good as some people believe, he should be able to compete at 168. Though in my opinion, he'd be easily knocked out by the elite fighters.