Comments Thread For: Devon Alexander Tested, Still Beats Andriy Kotelnik

[WladIsTheChamp]

This is too ****ing sickening, I can't stand this ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Again - **** US judges, **** Don King, and **** St. Louis!!!!

Goodnight everone, I am going to finish that 3rd bottle of wine I started so I can just go to sleep, otherwise I am too ****ing angry!!!!!!!!!!

[ChopperRead]

Lesson to all Eastern European boxers - When you come to the US, you have got to knock those mofos out Pirog or Klitschkos style or you aren't getting the decision from these crooked hometown judges. Wow, 3 US judges for a championship fight in the US, in the guy's hometown!!! At least when the fight is in Germany, every championship fight has at least one US judge if there is a US fighter.

Another lessson - forget about getting interviewed after the fight by HBO, you can win like Pirog or you can get robbed like Kotelnik, you aren't getting interviewed!!!!

They screwed Glen Johnson again, too. It wasn't a "robbery" but certainly could have been called a draw and Cloud's face was the one that was marked up bad at the end.

Kotelnik: outright robbery. Harold Lederman telling you that you weren't seeing what you were seeing. And then backing off at the end: "Oh well, you could see it either way." After he scores it 9-3 Alexander? How much did King pay YOU, Harold?

[mathed]

Kotelnik was jobbed tonight and Alexander has more trouble in store if he wants to fight my boy Bradley...he will get worked over in a bad way.

[sicko]

cut the bull****, Alexander won on workrate ALONE, yes Kotelnik was more accurate...BUT he wasn't active enough, kinda like the Clottey vs Cotto match

Kotelnik if he throws more punches HE WINS yes I will gladly admit that, it is not excuses, Alexander is still a young BEAST and who knows maybe the fact that he didn't look his best will land him a big fight because now all of a sudden HOPEFULLY people will be running to him thinking they can beat him, I truly hope that is the case

more credit goes to Kotelnik, he fought a great fight I though especially defensively, if he throws more punches he WINS maybe even scores a Knock Down at least but he stopped way too many times after landing a big punch

yes Alexander has things to work on, as a diehard Alexander fans I have always said "TIMOTHY BRADLEY IS THE BEST AT 140 RIGHT NOW" he is more seasoned and more battled tested then the rest, how ever Alexander still has the talent and the skills to beat them all but yes he has some things to work on especially his defense and his head movement and those are things and can and will improve, do I still think he can beat KHAN, Maidana, Ortiz? ABSOLUTELY! but like I always said, Bradley would be his toughest opponent

Alexander struggling against Kotelnik might actually benefit him financial because I think guys will be calling on Monday looking to fight him, had he dominated then guys would have stayed away from him so we will so over the next week or so

I think we got two GOOD CLOSE FIGHTS, Don King put on a nice show for HBO, I do think Kotelnik deserves a rematch maybe even on his home turf (even though we know that would never happen)

but all this "Robbery" talk is a bit ridiculous, Kotelnik was landing great shots but he was not "DOMINATING THE FIGHT" as some are trying to make others believe, had he followed up behind those big shots instead of allowing Alexander to coming back with a combo every time he landed a big shot then yes NO QUESTION he gets the win I don't care if he was at home, Alexander got the win ONLY...ONLY...ONLY because of his WORK RATE and nothing else

Alexander will bounce back, lets see the others at 140 come take him out and take advantage of "ALL HIS WEAKNESSES"

[mathed]

I agree, Lederman is sickening with his scoring.

Bob Papas KNEW who was winning while Max the mouth was spilling HBO phoney crap building up a fighter, then had to eat his words, but Papas KNEW and he was telling it all along.

What happen to the vacation boy ?

Actually, Kellerman was calling it pretty fairly all night by saying that clean, effective punching means that you have to actually land the punches...he was calling Lederman out all night

[oldboy90]

for **** sake
this type of **** got to stop
listen i understand that he is star in making but you can't just take something away from a guy who flew to this country and gave great performance.
I love alexander but what happend to night was wrong kotelnik won and won clearly

Herold lederman should be ****ign ashamed, even bob and max were like wtf are u talking about
the amature system was changed to favor ****ing clean effective punches,
that is the main ****ing criteria in judging clean effective punches
did the ****ing judges forget how the fights are scored.
just throwing punches is not enough

[Lorily]

devon did actually recieve a beating and you could see it in his speech at the end. this beating has suddenly put amir khan for me in 1st place. kotelnik can barely **** and i didnt see khans head get rocked like that in their fight, surprisingly as everyone says khan is chinny..khan put a whooping on kotelnik and kotelnik put a whooping on alexander which says alot!!!. devon you are no longer the man and the tables have turned..stay away from khan, maidana as if you take one of their flurry's you wont be standing and your belts are going.. kotelnik has something like a 20% ko ratio while khan and maidana are in the 80% zone. stay away!

for all the writers that said kotelnik would get stopped you look like right **** now lol

I thought Devon sounded a bit punch drunk during his post fight interview as well.
I just knew Kotelnik was gonna get screwed as the rounds went by and Harold Leddermans buttcrack score kept being posted.

[rambo1962009]

Small correction buddy, he was a 9-1 favorite and not 9-2 but you are right about Don King dirty mofo, except he had the judges in his pocket, he didn't drug his boy, that's ridiculous. Kotelnik was robbed plain and simple and Kotelnik is world class - silver medalist, world champion, it's Alexander who got knocked out from the Olympics before he even got there by one of his country mates. Kotelnik doesn't have power but his skills are superb, he is a 32 year old dude with a 30% KO ratio who just got robbed by two 23 year olds with 70% and 65% KO ratios.

are u saying kotelnik was robbed against khan? u need to stop watching boxing asap

[ChopperRead]

for **** sake
this type of **** got to stop
listen i understand that he is star in making but you can't just take something away from a guy who flew to this country and gave great performance.
I love alexander but what happend to night was wrong kotelnik won and won clearly

Herold lederman should be ****ign ashamed, even bob and max were like wtf are u talking about
the amature system was changed to favor ****ing clean effective punches,
that is the main ****ing criteria in judging clean effective punches
did the ****ing judges forget how the fights are scored.
just throwing punches is not enough

People saying Alexander won don't care about the sport and how this makes boxing look to people. It just looks like pro wrestling or something: fake and fixed.

Bob and Max knew who won the fight. Papas especially was really uncomfortable with the whole thing.

[mathed]

cut the bull****, Alexander won on workrate ALONE, yes Kotelnik was more accurate...BUT he wasn't active enough, kinda like the Clottey vs Cotto match

Kotelnik if he throws more punches HE WINS yes I will gladly admit that, it is not excuses, Alexander is still a young BEAST and who knows maybe the fact that he didn't look his best will land him a big fight because now all of a sudden HOPEFULLY people will be running to him thinking they can beat him, I truly hope that is the case

more credit goes to Kotelnik, he fought a great fight I though especially defensively, if he throws more punches he WINS maybe even scores a Knock Down at least but he stopped way too many times after landing a big punch

yes Alexander has things to work on, as a diehard Alexander fans I have always said "TIMOTHY BRADLEY IS THE BEST AT 140 RIGHT NOW" he is more seasoned and more battled tested then the rest, how ever Alexander still has the talent and the skills to beat them all but yes he has some things to work on especially his defense and his head movement and those are things and can and will improve, do I still think he can beat KHAN, Maidana, Ortiz? ABSOLUTELY! but like I always said, Bradley would be his toughest opponent

Alexander struggling against Kotelnik might actually benefit him financial because I think guys will be calling on Monday looking to fight him, had he dominated then guys would have stayed away from him so we will so over the next week or so

I think we got two GOOD CLOSE FIGHTS, Don King put on a nice show for HBO, I do think Kotelnik deserves a rematch maybe even on his home turf (even though we know that would never happen)

but all this "Robbery" talk is a bit ridiculous, Kotelnik was landing great shots but he was not "DOMINATING THE FIGHT" as some are trying to make others believe, had he followed up behind those big shots instead of allowing Alexander to coming back with a combo every time he landed a big shot then yes NO QUESTION he gets the win I don't care if he was at home, Alexander got the win ONLY...ONLY...ONLY because of his WORK RATE and nothing else

Alexander will bounce back, lets see the others at 140 come take him out and take advantage of "ALL HIS WEAKNESSES"

At least you are honest about the reality of the situation. Some other Devon supporters (nothing against Alexander personally, he seems like a nice guy) but some people are saying that he won 10-2 and dominated the fight...not what I saw by any stretch of the imagination.