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Wladimir Klitschko deserves to be in the top 10 p4p

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  • #11
    most P4P list I have seen, Wlad is usually in it and he should be

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    • #12
      Who btw, almost knocked him out in 2 rounds.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
        Whats his best win? Recently.
        His last two:

        Ruslan Chagaev, who had never lost or even been knocked down. Wlad won every minute of every round.

        Eddie Chambers who had never been knocked down before, and had only one decision loss. Wlad completely dominated and knocked him out cold with 15 seconds left.

        These are very good fighters. Give Wlad credit.

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        • #14
          Wlad is a good fighter.

          Just not good enough to be rated that highly. Would definately make my top 100 P4P list though.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
            Whats his best win? Recently.

            Having any fighter from the Heavyweight division is a joke. The division is the worst in boxing.
            Then why are Louis and Tyson considered some of the best ever.? Louis was knocking out bums every month along with Tyson.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
              Then why are Louis and Tyson considered some of the best ever.? Louis was knocking out bums every month along with Tyson.
              Damn boy would you stick to the subject we are talking about Wlad in 2010.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Freedom Fighter View Post
                His last two:

                Ruslan Chagaev, who had never lost or even been knocked down. Wlad won every minute of every round.

                Eddie Chambers who had never been knocked down before, and had only one decision loss. Wlad completely dominated and knocked him out cold with 15 seconds left.

                These are very good fighters. Give Wlad credit.
                He makes my Top 20 P4P List. Hes not a bum dont get me wrong. Its just that with the level of competition in heavyweight its not fair to rank him over fighters who are fighting tougher fights.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Freedom Fighter View Post
                  Wrong.

                  Wlad's record:

                  http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...7035&cat=boxer

                  Many of his opponents WEIGHED MORE THAN HE DID:

                  Thompson
                  Rahman
                  Austin
                  Jefferson
                  Moli
                  McCline
                  Koch
                  Shaheed
                  Purrity
                  Pannell
                  Dixon
                  LaRosa
                  McIntyre
                  Botowamungu
                  Martin x 2
                  Monroe x 2
                  Wolfgramme
                  G. Williamson
                  Maciel


                  For those 21 fights and a few others Wlad's opponents were bigger than he is. Frans Botha weighed exactly the same. About ten others were very close to the same weight...

                  Wlad has excellent boxing skills. If size was all that mattered, then the top heavyweights would be Marcellus Brown, Julius Long, Alexander Ustinov, Evgeny Orlov, and Tye Fields. All these men are bigger than Wladimir, but none of them are close to his athleticism!

                  Lennox Lewis was about the same size as Wlad, in fact had a longer reach at 84" to Wlad's 81" and longer arms 29.5" to Wlad's 26". Lennox was in the Ring top 10 p4p. Bowe was a big man too, he was in the top 10 p4p as well.
                  LMAO, you just destroyed that Iceta clown.



                  Note he had no retort.



                  That dude knows nothing, all he does is hate. Nice ass-whoopin', Slugger.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic View Post
                    Then why are Louis and Tyson considered some of the best ever.? Louis was knocking out bums every month along with Tyson.
                    OK, well I dislike this comment as well. Louis fought a few bums, and so did Tyson, but they both beat a ton of top ten fighters, and a lot of them werent even close to bums.

                    I consider Tyson's era to not be the best ever, but better than today's division. the defining characteristic of his era was that there actually was a lot of talent, but the guys were undertrained or unfocused: in other words, they never fulfilled their potential.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by No Ceilings View Post
                      Whats his best win? Recently.

                      Having any fighter from the Heavyweight division is a joke. The division is the worst in boxing.
                      Because all the americans in the division are getting beat and there is no more Ali...so the division sucks....

                      But fact is a fighter like Eddie Chambers has way more speed and skills than many old schoold overrated ATG.

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