Wladimir Klitschko deserves to be in the top 10 p4p

[Steak]

sure, I know, p4p lists are just unsubstantial popularity lists. but lets face it, Wladimir has got to be one of the most dominant fighters in the sport.

Trust me, Im with everyone when they say that the HW division is weak. honestly, its sad. But heres a wakeup call: The man has been dominating the best in the division for coming on 6 or 7 years.

despite the fact that the division is shallow and that he wont fight his brother, his level of domination is pretty much unmatched. I dont think you can deny it: the guy has almost flawlessly consistantly taken out more top 10 guys in the last 6 years than any other fighter.

Im not saying that he should be rated best in the world or even in the top 5. but to not consider him at least the 10th best fighter in the sport is a joke.

And dont give me that tired 'heavyweights shouldnt be in p4p lists'. p4p lists are not about moving up in weight(although size can be a factor in giving a fighter credit), it's about a fighter's proficiency and success in the sport at the given time.

oh, side note: Tomaz Adamek should be top 10 too. I actualyl dont think much of him, but hes gone from light HW titlest to #1 at Cruiserweight to a mid ranker at HW. thats a lot more accomplished than a lot of other top fighters.

[>Right Jab<]

Yeah, Wlad is the man. Would love to see him destroy that ducker david haye.

[Franco2012]

he is top 5 p4p

[Mr. Fantastic]

Personally I think he should be in the top 5 P4P. Probably as high as #3.

[Iceta Lives]

Nope. Has a 30 lb size advantage over every opponent he fights and the division sucks.

[Steak]

Nope. Has a 30 lb size advantage over every opponent he fights and the division sucks.

its the HW division. anything over 200lbs is not really an advantage at all.

the division does suck, but his consistant domination of the best of it has a lot more merit than someone like Kelly Pavlik, who jumped to like #5 for simply beating Jermain Taylor.

[nomadman]

I've been saying this for some time. Even taking into account the relative weakness of the division and Wlad's sometimes sizable weight advantages over his opponents, he still dominates them all whilst taking minimal damage in return. Certainly, if someone like Paul Williams can be in the top ten (a man who doesn't seem to know how to use his height advantage properly and often takes tremendous punishment in his fights) then Wlad has a good shout.

[The Hammer]

Nope. Has a 30 lb size advantage over every opponent he fights and the division sucks.

Wrong.

Wlad's record:

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?hum...7035&cat=boxer

Many of his opponents WEIGHED MORE THAN HE DID:

Thompson
Rahman
Austin
Jefferson
Moli
McCline
Koch
Shaheed
Purrity
Pannell
Dixon
LaRosa
McIntyre
Botowamungu
Martin x 2
Monroe x 2
Wolfgramme
G. Williamson
Maciel

For those 21 fights and a few others Wlad's opponents were bigger than he is. Frans Botha weighed exactly the same. About ten others were very close to the same weight...

Wlad has excellent boxing skills. If size was all that mattered, then the top heavyweights would be Marcellus Brown, Julius Long, Alexander Ustinov, Evgeny Orlov, and Tye Fields. All these men are bigger than Wladimir, but none of them are close to his athleticism!

Lennox Lewis was about the same size as Wlad, in fact had a longer reach at 84" to Wlad's 81" and longer arms 29.5" to Wlad's 26". Lennox was in the Ring top 10 p4p. Bowe was a big man too, he was in the top 10 p4p as well.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Whats his best win? Recently.

Having any fighter from the Heavyweight division is a joke. The division is the worst in boxing.

[Dick Buffman]

I'd say top 5.

Mayweather should be out of the top ten. All he's done in the last year is fight a career FW, and an old punch drunk, feinting twitchy bastard with no trigger pull.