Wladi***** has to fight Peter if he want's to be #1 IBF. Will he man up?

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  • scap
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    #121
    Originally posted by Torino
    The list is of those that got KO'ed. That is the only criteria. Ali & Holmes Got Ko'ed. Therefore, they are on the list.

    The point was, Wlad got KO'ed and it's not the end of his career. He could still be a champion. I wasn't trying to make Wlad look good. I was simply trying to put his situation into it's proper perspective. History proves that getting KO'ed is not the end of the road.



    What difference does that make? I don't understand the reason for asking this question.

    ???????????

    Torino my friends are you sure you dont understand the reason for my question? Think about it Torino!

    You were trying to paint the picture that Wlad's chin problems were overblown and you listed a number of fighters that had suffered a ko.

    Now it is my belief that if you are ko'd in consecutive fights that you better take a strong look at your chin? Do you believe that too?

    So my question remains, which of the fighters on your list were ko'd in consecutive fights, sure I will let a ko slide and give a fighter a chance to prove that his chin isnt really made of glass but when it happens twice in a row that is it I dont care if he was drugged or what against Brewster he got iced twice in a row, that should be impossible to ignore even for the loyalist wlad fan.

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    • Torino
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      #122
      Originally posted by scap
      Torino my friends are you sure you dont understand the reason for my question? Think about it Torino!

      You were trying to paint the picture that Wlad's chin problems were overblown and you listed a number of fighters that had suffered a ko.

      Now it is my belief that if you are ko'd in consecutive fights that you better take a strong look at your chin? Do you believe that too?

      So my question remains, which of the fighters on your list were ko'd in consecutive fights, sure I will let a ko slide and give a fighter a chance to prove that his chin isnt really made of glass but when it happens twice in a row that is it I dont care if he was drugged or what against Brewster he got iced twice in a row, that should be impossible to ignore even for the loyalist wlad fan.

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      With all due respect, Wlad wasn't KO'ed in two consecutive fights. That's why I didn't understand the question.

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      • !! Mr. Soprano
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        #123
        Originally posted by masterdirector
        Some fool said if Wlad would've used the same "strategy" that Vitali used against Sanders, he would've won. What strategy was that exactly? To go to war and exchange punches with him? Yeah, Wlad would've won, at all, idiot. And if Wlad thought Sanders was tough, let him try that "strategy" as you called it, against Sam Peter.

        Yeah, I totally think Wlad ducks Peter and ends up never fighting him. Wlad wants to live.
        Hey Masturbator Rectum,

        That fool was me...

        You don't even know what the **** you're talking about. The strategy was to keep Sanders at a distance, play it safe and avoid any exchange. What fight were you watching fool? As soon as Sanders would start throwing, Vitali immediately jumped back.

        "To go to war and exchange punches with him?" again, WTF are you talking about? Vitali fought a VERY cautious fight

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        • Torino
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          #124
          Originally posted by scap
          Torino my friends are you sure you dont understand the reason for my question? Think about it Torino!

          You were trying to paint the picture that Wlad's chin problems were overblown and you listed a number of fighters that had suffered a ko.

          Now it is my belief that if you are ko'd in consecutive fights that you better take a strong look at your chin? Do you believe that too?

          So my question remains, which of the fighters on your list were ko'd in consecutive fights, sure I will let a ko slide and give a fighter a chance to prove that his chin isnt really made of glass but when it happens twice in a row that is it I dont care if he was drugged or what against Brewster he got iced twice in a row, that should be impossible to ignore even for the loyalist wlad fan.

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          A list of Wlad fights since Sanders,

          Corrie Sanders L KO
          Fabio Eduardo Moli W KO
          Danell Nicholson W TKO
          Lamon Brewster L TKO
          DaVarryl Williamson W TD
          Eliseo Castillo W TKO

          See, he didn't get KO'ed in two consecutive fights. That's why I don't understand the question.

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          • scap
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            #125
            Originally posted by Torino
            With all due respect, Wlad wasn't KO'ed in two consecutive fights. That's why I didn't understand the question.

            Ya know sometimes even the most brilliant of posters (myself) can be wrong, you are right Torino....

            I just looked at those two names that he fought and do they really count? Sure Nicholson beat Ruiz about 20 years ago but who cares...

            Torino Wlad is thru, let me ask you this...of that wonderful list uou provided which fighter or fighters have worse chins than Wlad in your expert opinion?

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            • freirui
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              #126
              Originally posted by Torino
              This whole "Wlad getting KO'ed" and "Weak chin" thing is blown way out of proportion. He does have some question marks, but his career isn't over and he doesn't "suck" just because he got KO'ed. Those that keep saying he's no good because he got KO'ed, don't know a thing about boxing.

              1st, Sanders is a much bigger puncher than Wlad critics are willing to admit. In fact, Sanders had enough power to KO practically anyone in the division. I don't want to hear about how Sanders "didn't KO this guy" or "that guy". That's all BS. There are too many variables why he didn't KO all his opponents. One thing is for sure, If Sanders landed a clean shot on anyone like he did on Wlad, they would've gotten KO'ed too.

              In his fight with Brewster, It clearly had nothing to do with his "chin". Everyone knows it, and I will leave it at that.

              The fact that all the haters keep bringing up that Wlad got knocked down by Williamson, is just a joke. I bet they can't even type that and keep a straight face. It's just rhetoric and they know that knock down was nothing.

              Wlad getting KO'ed means nothing. He can still succeed and become a great champion. Some of the greatest heavyweights in the history of the sport have gotten KO'ed.

              Here is a list of some of those boxers.

              Muhammad Ali
              Ezzard Charles
              Jimmy Bivins
              Joe Louis
              Floyd Patterson
              Evander Holyfield
              Jersey Joe Walcott
              Mike Tyson
              Lennox Lewis
              Jack Sharkey
              George Foreman
              Max Baer
              Johnny Risko
              Sonny Liston
              Max Schmeling
              Primo Carnera
              Larry Holmes
              Joe Frazier
              Bob Satterfield
              Michael Spinks
              Nino Valdes
              Lee Q Murray

              And many ......many more. In fact, It's a lot harder to find those that didn't get KO'ed. Any boxer can, and most likely will get KO'ed. It's the nature of the sport. So what does it mean that Wlad got KO'ed? Nothing.
              Great post!!!

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              • felly smarts
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                #127
                Originally posted by freirui
                Great post!!!
                Everyone that Wlad has fought that has been known as a heavy hitter has KO'd him. And if he doesn't know to keep his chin tucked in against somebody like Sanders then he doesn't need to be boxing. I rank Wlad up there with Jeremy Williams. Good, but not good enough. If he fights Peter, the same thing that happened to Jeremy is going to happen to Wlad. Face it the guy has a suspect chin. And really who has he beat other than Byrd (witch is a story on its own).

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                • FistoftheDallasStar
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by Michael Wittmann
                  ..thats entertainment, allright.

                  when you people lull yourself into these fantazies, do you do it while sedated on drugs, or do you find you are capable of this in a more sober, or concsious state aswell..?
                  Wittman it may sound like I'm just high off of lala juice or whatever. It is just my opinion of what will happen in the fight. The fantasy is holding on to a washed up heavyweight's persuit of an unreachable goal to regain the heavyweight championship.

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                  • PBDS
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                    #129
                    .....We shall see about Wlad in the very near future. If you people who think he is washed up turn out to be wrong I want a down on your knees appology from every last one of you **** suckers. I will admit that you guys were right if he folds in his next fight. I say the jury is still out and Wlad still may rise to the top. It seems that Wlad fans are given a harder time for thinking he can make a comeback and regain some crowns than the nutty ****in Tyson fans. What a joke that is.

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                    • Hitman932
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by felly smarts
                      Everyone that Wlad has fought that has been known as a heavy hitter has KO'd him. And if he doesn't know to keep his chin tucked in against somebody like Sanders then he doesn't need to be boxing. I rank Wlad up there with Jeremy Williams. Good, but not good enough. If he fights Peter, the same thing that happened to Jeremy is going to happen to Wlad. Face it the guy has a suspect chin. And really who has he beat other than Byrd (witch is a story on its own).


                      If Wlad fought Williams 100 times he would win by KO 100 times. so your rankings are ******.

                      who has he beat other than byrd?

                      TOS Willamson, Danell Nicholson, Jameel Mccline, Ray Mercer, Frans Botha, monte Barrett, Axel Shulz to name a few.

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