Saul Alvarez Is Seriouly Overrated, Ain't Nothing Special......

[johncods]

Baldomir is an easy win. i didn't even know baldo was still fighting. he was already looking as old as a dinosaur back when he got his shot on floyd. Isn't over 40 yrs. old now?

[Steak]

Actually he's 20. Wilfredo Benitez WAS WORLD CHAMPION at the age of 17. Tony Canzoaneri had already challaged for a title at the age of 18. Pipeno Cuevas was world champion at 18.

People get carried away by his age, judge him back the footage we see of him.

Cuevas' and Benitez' careers were also over by their mid 20s. They were exceptions.

besides, look at the top fighters nowadays and tell me how they were doing when they were 20?
the best guy Mayweather had fought was 6-3
Pacquiao had already been knocked out in 3 rounds
Andre Ward hadnt even turned pro
Wlad Klitschko hadnt even turned pro
JMM had already lost
and none of these guys looked that great in the footage prior to that, even Mayweather had been cut and struggled a little with a 1-1 guy in his second fight.

I mean seriously, its rare for most future title holders to be anywhere near a title when they have just turned 20.
besides, Alvarez looks pretty decent to me right now.

[DrewWoodside]

For the most the dude's fought lots of journyman or sub par fighters. Natural SFW Jose Miguel Cotto stunned him and nearly knocked him out in 1.

His record is pretty padded. As soon as he fights a top rated opponent he will get beat, actually I fancy Baldomir to exploit him.

Journeymen and subpar fighters.. Oh you mean the blueprint for all rising stars??? WTF.

[-Hyperion-]

Cuevas' and Benitez' careers were also over by their mid 20s. They were exceptions.

besides, look at the top fighters nowadays and tell me how they were doing when they were 20?
the best guy Mayweather had fought was 6-3
Pacquiao had already been knocked out in 3 rounds
Andre Ward hadnt even turned pro
Wlad Klitschko hadnt even turned pro
JMM had already lost
and none of these guys looked that great in the footage prior to that, even Mayweather had been cut and struggled a little with a 1-1 guy in his second fight.

I mean seriously, its rare for most future title holders to be anywhere near a title when they have just turned 20.
besides, Alvarez looks pretty decent to me right now.

pac had also been a world champ....
JMM had lost....by DQ...thats like saying Victor Ortiz had already lost before Maidana....


and you say those guys had short careers....wll last time i checked, alavarez has 35 fights at the age of 20, not a real fresh 20 year old, is he?

[Steak]

heres something I posted in another thread, on Alvarez's competition.

Euri Gonzalez-recently beat Cosme Rivera, former title challenger and someone who dropped Berto in the past.
Raul Pinzon-dropped Ricardo Torres(former WBO champ) three times and was leading the fight before Torres scored a comeback KO in the last round.
Jeferson Goncalo-Alvarez was the only one to KO him, and Goncalo has faced Hassan N'Jikam(#2 rated middleweight by boxrec) and Kheron Gevor(#7 rated middleweight by boxrec, #5 rated by Ring magazine)
Lanardo Tyner-Recently upset prospect Antwone Smith by TKO in the 9th
Miguel Vasquez-Went on to beat Breidas Prescott(the guy that KOed Khan)

Jose Cotto is also a former title challenger, and Alvarez's most recent fight against Luciano Cuello was a complete destruction, and Cuello gave JJC Jr a very tough fight.

Im not trying to say hes a world beater based on his record, but it looks fairly clear hes a step above most prospects already.

[Steak]

pac had also been a world champ....
JMM had lost....by DQ...thats like saying Victor Ortiz had already lost before Maidana....


and you say those guys had short careers....wll last time i checked, alavarez has 35 fights at the age of 20, not a real fresh 20 year old, is he?

fair points. although I would still consider Alvarez a fresh 20 year old: hes kind of in his 'amateur days' as a pro boxer, Benitez and Cuevas very quickly started fighting top level guys, and that takes a toll on you at such a young age.

my point is that most of the best fighters of all time were still years away from a title shot after just turning 20.
...not that Im assuming Alvarez will become one of those, but I dont think its fair to judge fighters at such a young age. its extremely rare to find guys that are world level at or below 20 years old, even among ATGs

[SkillspayBills]

He is so young and has so much potential, he hasn't even gotten his man strength yet. When he's 25 he could be controlling the entire sport. No rush at all, he shouldn't even fight for a title until he's 22.

[mikeyh1015]

the kid is 19yrs old. i mean 19yrs old? come on bro....This thread fails. The kid is very promissing and is the future of boxing

[pistol whip]

Are people really hating on a ***ing prospects now? Just because hes popular doesn't mean anyone has tagged him as the GOAT.

seriously you people need to calm the *** down.

[V.WEBB]

For the most the dude's fought lots of journyman or sub par fighters. Natural SFW Jose Miguel Cotto stunned him and nearly knocked him out in 1.

His record is pretty padded. As soon as he fights a top rated opponent he will get beat, actually I fancy Baldomir to exploit him.

I don't know why you thought the bolded would happen. Now, beating Baldo doesn't make him a world beater by no means. But the kid is young, talented and exciting. Let's see how his career moves along.