Name the fighters that WOULD beat Floyd & Pac

[lfc19titles]

people forget pac has the best offense out of all of these guys!

he would break down most of these guys due to a great amount of combo and angle shots

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

people forget pac has the best offense out of all of these guys!

he would break down most of these guys due to a great amount of combo and angle shots

Like how he broke down Juan Manuel Marquez?

[TRAV1$]

I may be biased but I don't know if Arguello hits harder than floyd. Floyd's style makes people think he hits soft like Malignaggi but thats not the case.

130-140 Arguello was a far harder hitter than Floyd.

[The Big Dunn]

130-140 Arguello was a far harder hitter than Floyd.

Did you see floyd corrales? Did you see floyd gatti? See what I mean?

[Bushbaby]

Ok,lets keep it real,Floyd & Manny might be able to go through 147 undefeated right now!!That said,the Punisher,Martinez,beat them both at 154!!Angulo might even beat them both!!

Martinez will walk the dogs on Floyds a$$ big time!!Bigger,just as fast,stronger,has more power!!Floyd's a better counter puncher,because that's how he fights,but if ur fighting someone bigger,stronger & just as fast,obviously U ain't countering ****!!Just saying!!

[TRAV1$]

Did you see floyd corrales? Did you see floyd gatti? See what I mean?

Arguello's right was devastating, even at higher weights
P4P one of the biggest shots in boxing and just as accurate as Floyds.

[The Big Dunn]

Ok,lets keep it real,Floyd & Manny might be able to go through 147 undefeated right now!!That said,the Punisher,Martinez,beat them both at 154!!Angulo might even beat them both!!

Martinez will walk the dogs on Floyds a$$ big time!!Bigger,just as fast,stronger,has more power!!Floyd's a better counter puncher,because that's how he fights,but if ur fighting someone bigger,stronger & just as fast,obviously U ain't countering ****!!Just saying!!

All that based on Paul/sergio's last fight? Sorry but a great fight between two good fighters doesn't make them great fighters. Go to the Cintron fight for both guys and then see if they beat floyd or pac.

[Bushbaby]

All that based on Paul/sergio's last fight? Sorry but a great fight between two good fighters doesn't make them great fighters. Go to the Cintron fight for both guys and then see if they beat floyd or pac.

Dunn,never called them great but the Punisher & Martinez are both way bigger than them!!Besides on a serious note,which prime welterweights have Manny or Floyd beat to even begin to assume they could beat the Punisher or Martinez??Especially at 154!!Just because Floyd & Manny are superstar fighters doesn't mean they are the only elite ones now does it??

[The Big Dunn]

Dunn,never called them great but the Punisher & Martinez are both way bigger than them!!Besides on a serious note,which prime welterweights have Manny or Floyd beat to even begin to assume they could beat the Punisher or Martinez??Especially at 154!!Just because Floyd & Manny are superstar fighters doesn't mean they are the only elite ones now does it??

In theory you are correct. But what have paul and sergio done to be considered "elite"? At 154 they are both too big for manny. But they are not too big for floyd. I cant see sergio at 147. Paul would lose to both at 147 right now. My point is Paul and Sergio deserve credit, but they are not, right now, in the same class.

[Bushbaby]

In theory you are correct. But what have paul and sergio done to be considered "elite"? At 154 they are both too big for manny. But they are not too big for floyd. I cant see sergio at 147. Paul would lose to both at 147 right now. My point is Paul and Sergio deserve credit, but they are not, right now, in the same class.

The Punisher & Martinez have heavy credentials at 154,their both prime & their both big!!Floyd's only outing at 154 was against a fading DLH!!The only deference between the Punisher & Martinez compared to Floyd & Manny are superstar status!!

The Punisher was a 2 time welterweight champion I believe,1 for sure,he took Margarito's title when Margarito was beasting fools!!When Margarito was prime,which prime elite welterweight has Floyd or Manny EVER sonned??NONE,nada,zip,ZERO,how the hell aren't they in the same class??

At 154 Manny nor Floyd are proven on the elite level,the Punisher & Martinez are,so at 154 they are on the same level as Floyd & Manny & if either thought that they could beat Martinez & the Punisher,Manny wouldn't be fighting a faded Margarito for a 154 pound title at 150 & Floyd wouldn't be taking a ****ing vacation,period!!