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  • Mikhnienko
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    #11
    Originally posted by No Ceilings
    Williams really gets no respect on this board.

    Martinez said several times that ws the toughest fight of his career. People act like Williams bring NOTHING to the table for opponents.
    I respect Williams just he hasn't proven anything at 160 to me. I'm just being honest in how i view his style matching up vs a legit 160lber, a mover, with good D and can give and take a punch.

    Honestly i think it's about as bad a matchup as you could possibly find for Paul.
    Last edited by Mikhnienko; 08-04-2010, 08:29 AM.

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    • Mr Bigglesworth
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      #12
      Wheres the picture of james kirklands swollen face after the brian vera fight?

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      • The Hammer
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        #13
        Dmiry Pirog is one of the top five contenders at middleweight.

        I think Martinez is a bit better than Dmitry, and Pirog would have competitive fights with Pavlik and Williams. Pirog would defeat Sylvester for sure.

        I always said Dmitry was about equal to Korobov, but not quite as good as Golovkin. But Golovkin has been inactive for a long time now and hardly fought a live opponent since his amateur days, thanks to his shit promoter Universum.

        Middleweight is a very underrated division, with LOTS of talented up-and-comers.

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        • B.U.R.N.E.R
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          #14
          Originally posted by Mikhnienko
          I respect Williams just he hasn't proven anything at 160 to me. I'm just being honest in how i view his style matching up vs a legit 160lber, a mover, with good D and can give and take a punch.

          Honestly i think it's about as bad a matchup as you could possibly find for Paul.
          Not really. Pirogs chin, heart, stamina and will would be testd vs. The Punisher.

          Pirog isnt really slick. He has some nice ass moves but he can be hit Jacobs landed alot.

          Im going to go out on a limb and say Paul is no Danny Jacobs. Piorg is in for the fightof his life vs. Paul.

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          • krazyn8tive
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            #15
            Thanks for removing me from your ignore list. I feel that the Jacobs-Pirog fight was the "it" fight from this past weekends PPV. Me and my homeboy jumped up and were shouting when the K.O. came...it was weird at first seeing a russian/easter european move like that and roll his shoulders and weave under some shots. He is definetely a breath of fresh air. IMO he in contender status but he defenitely needs more fine tuning before he takes on the big dogs around his weight division

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            • Ravishing
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              #16
              I like Pirog's style. He defends pretty well, but isn't afraid to let his hands go. He also sets his punches up really well, especially how he set up the KO on Jacobs.

              As far as him vs Williams? Still tough to tell. I wanna see Pirog against some other contenders and then see what he can do against a Williams or Martinez. I think both would be dope fights though.

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              • Mikhnienko
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                #17
                Originally posted by No Ceilings
                Not really. Pirogs chin, heart, stamina and will would be testd vs. The Punisher.

                Pirog isnt really slick. He has some nice ass moves but he can be hit Jacobs landed alot.

                Im going to go out on a limb and say Paul is no Danny Jacobs. Piorg is in for the fightof his life vs. Paul.
                I'm not hating on Paul, it's cool you have a different opinion, i'd love to see it whatever the case may be.

                Chin - I have no doubt that Jantuah hits harder than PW, i imagine Toygonbaev and Jacobs too.

                Stamina - check the compubox stats for some of his fights. Pirog averages 90-100 punches per round frequently.

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                • JBell11
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by El 7 Mares V.2
                  Pirog beats Pavlik, Martinez, Kirkland, Pavlik, easily, yup I said it.
                  I agree that he gives Pavlik 2X the beating. lol

                  I have to say this...Kirkland is another person that people overrate.

                  Martinez...Not so easy.

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                  • southcentralcar
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                    #19
                    Pirog thread again ? D what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ?! haha.i hate it when u people start hyping boxers after 1 decent win

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by southcentralcar
                      Pirog thread again ? D what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu ?! haha.i hate it when u people start hyping boxers after 1 decent win
                      To someone elses point, it's only natural that people get excited.
                      I am a bit more of a skeptic; I'd like to see two or three more fights.

                      IMO Martinez is better.

                      Williams might have trouble with his style, but I think he can get the job done.
                      I've already expressed that Williams has to dig deep and get focused, he needs to seriously work out his flaws and execute an effective fight plan.
                      If he does that, he will do well against Pirog.

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