Manny Pacquiao: Calling Out Mayweather by FIGHTING!

[Hannibal Barca]

Till the casket drops.

Seems like a tedious job. The idiots haven't yet left the forums.

[IMDAZED]

Seems like a tedious job. The idiots haven't yet left the forums.

They're a part of talking boxing on the forums. Kinda like insects at your favorite resort.

[HaglerSteelChin]

When I say Mayweather has been in more competitive bouts in the higher weight classes, I mean he's been in tougher matches. Obviously Floyd fought top comp at 130 and 135. But most of those fights were hardly competitive. If we're discussing the perception going into the fight, that's one thing. If we're speaking as if we're in 2010, then you must define competitive bouts as...well, bouts that were competitive. Since he's moved to 140, I've seen Floyd get staggered, hurt, lose rounds far more often and sometimes look bad even while dominating. That was not the case at 130-135 where, save for the Castillo bout, he pretty much made every fight a mismatch.

Well he had really 4 competitive fights at 130-135, the Jesus Chavez fight was phone booth style fighting, and the Hernandez fight where he hurt his hand and touched the canvas. I haven't seen many of his early fights in years, but i have them, there was also that fight with Augustus(sp?). There was also the fight where he fought a tenancious opponent who than pretended to wobble him. The Corley fight where he got wobbled that was at 135 or 140? Dont remember.

IMHO, Floyd simply just had more speed and power at the lower classes so he was able to dominate more there. A guy like Zab Judah wouldn't have even gone the distance in the lower classes with him. In fact, Judah was hurt more by guys like Cotto, Baldomir, and Clottey than what Floyd did to him.

[horge]

When I say Mayweather has been in more competitive bouts in the higher weight classes, I mean he's been in tougher matches. Obviously Floyd fought top comp at 130 and 135. But most of those fights were hardly competitive. If we're discussing the perception going into the fight, that's one thing. If we're speaking as if we're in 2010, then you must define competitive bouts as...well, bouts that were competitive. Since he's moved to 140, I've seen Floyd get staggered, hurt, lose rounds far more often and sometimes look bad even while dominating. That was not the case at 130-135 where, save for the Castillo bout, he pretty much made every fight a mismatch.

Now you're hewing closer to the original topic.
Sort of.

Mayweather has been in tighter spots upweight of 130...
but the quality of his opposition, relative to weightclass, hasn't
been as stellar as it was at JLW southwards. THAT is what started
all the criticism against him --that he was ducking whoever was
being touted as top comp at WW, etc.

He's been doing the same thing Pac's been doing, which is pick his
opponents intelligently while moving up in weight, but the difference
is that

#1. Pac isn't playing the asshole card, Ali-style, to generate bank
#2. Pac has been much busier: in fights/year AND per fight.

In reference to #1: it's easier to cut 'underdog' Pac some slack.
Can't look at a self-proclaimed GOAT with any underdog fondness,
so Floyd gets a lot of **** for 'cherrypicking'.

That just HAS to get under Floyd's skin: that he's done virtually as
much as Pac, but Pac gets far more love.

In a way then, Pac really has been calling out Floyd by staying busy:
busy at doing what he's doing, on the same trail Floyd blazed, but
in a more fan-pleasing manner, through more frequent fights.

h.

[IMDAZED]

Well he had really 4 competitive fights at 130-135, the Jesus Chavez fight was phone booth style fighting, and the Hernandez fight where he hurt his hand and touched the canvas. I haven't seen many of his early fights in years, but i have them, there was also that fight with Augustus(sp?). There was also the fight where he fought a tenancious opponent who than pretended to wobble him. The Corley fight where he got wobbled that was at 135 or 140? Dont remember.

The Jesus Chavez fight was no more competitive than the Hatton bout. The Famoso Hernandez bout wasn't competitive at all. In fact, it was embarrassing how Floyd beat that dude with one hand . Augustus was tough - he kept coming. Don't think it was tougher than the Zab fight, for instance. The Corley bout was at 140.

IMHO, Floyd simply just had more speed and power at the lower classes so he was able to dominate more there. A guy like Zab Judah wouldn't have even gone the distance in the lower classes with him. In fact, Judah was hurt more by guys like Cotto, Baldomir, and Clottey than what Floyd did to him.

I agree. He's lost some speed as he's moved up and his power isn't as effective in the higher weight classes.

[IMDAZED]

Now you're hewing closer to the original topic.
Sort of.

Mayweather has been in tighter spots upweight of 130...
but the quality of his opposition, relative to weightclass, hasn't
been as stellar as it was at JLW southwards. THAT is what started
all the criticism against him --that he was ducking whoever was
being touted as top comp at WW, etc.

He's been doing the same thing Pac's been doing, which is pick his
opponents intelligently while moving up in weight, but the difference
is that

#1. Pac isn't playing the asshole card, Ali-style, to generate bank
#2. Pac has been much busier: in fights/year AND per fight.

In reference to #1: it's easier to cut 'underdog' Pac some slack.
Can't look at a self-proclaimed GOAT with any underdog fondness,
so Floyd gets a lot of **** for 'cherrypicking'.

That just HAS to get under Floyd's skin: that he's done virtually as
much as Pac, but Pac gets far more love.

In a way then, Pac really has been calling out Floyd by staying busy:
busy at doing what he's doing, on the same trail Floyd blazed, but
in a more fan-pleasing manner, through more frequent fights.

h.

That may have been true several years ago but I don't think that is the case today. Mayweather's coming off a victory that will trump anything Pacquiao does this year. So it's kinda hard for me to talk about him cherry picking right now. 2006 was another story.

[sigrab jr]

the writer's name is Kevin Smith


totally a Filipino name

This guy is a Fillipno with the name Kevin. It could have been him.

http://ph.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091115005230AAjoJtu

[southcentralcar]

speaking of dumber than a chia pet...... that dude imdazed is a really dumb guy.

i use to think he was a smart dude but lately he's been infected with the ***** disease.

i was talking about how floyd's opponents were more competitive at the lower weight classes because the higher weight classes aren't use to mayweather's speed.

then he got all defensive about how "floyd has only been in 1 competitive fight his whole life" blah blah blah

that guy use to be an okay poster , he turned full ****** though.

what a pathetic loser.. asking for attention D

[titanium]

what a pathetic loser.. asking for attention D

what a pathetic loser.. begging for attention

[southcentralcar]

what a pathetic loser.. begging for attention

and another pathetic loser.. begging for attention