Will Taylor be able to rebound from his loss? He sounds really low in confidence now

[ottoevans]

WOW dude.

Let's see, I'm not talking about Tyson, DLH, Kostya... I'm talking about BERNARD HOPKINS, who everyone and their mother knows he hit his prime late and only got better with experience...

Yes, I'm dead serious.

And DLH wasn't even tiring in his last fight, he just got dropped by a perfect shot. Tyson didn't train hard enough, and Kostya was coming back after a long ass layoff...

i wanna keep this as a clean disscution, but that doesnt make any sence, how can you say every fighters whos old and fights a guy whos younger is going to have more stamina?

[Moon]

Jermain has nothing but excuses and promises to do better, and it looks like he is damaged goods now. His amateurish style would probably work against anyone other than Hopkins or Sturm, but now with his spirit gone I don't see how he'll ever reach the top.

Agree to the "damaged goods" comment. I think he fought his absolute best fight and has probably left something in the ring.

There will be a rematch and he will enjoy the same success.

[nezahualcoyotl]

Jermain has nothing but excuses and promises to do better, and it looks like he is damaged goods now. His amateurish style would probably work against anyone other than Hopkins or Sturm, but now with his spirit gone I don't see how he'll ever reach the top.

That's what I been trying to tell everyone since the fight ended. Check my previous posts if u dont believe me. Good post/observation.

[Stealthic]

i wanna keep this as a clean disscution, but that doesnt make any sence, how can you say every fighters whos old and fights a guy whos younger is going to have more stamina?

I didn't man. Like I said, I wasn't talking about those other guys. This is Hopkins we are talking about. The best 40 year old fighter of our time. Stamina isn't an issue with Hopkins yet. Taylor was the one going the distance in a title fight for the first time.

Now, in the next fight if Taylor gasses out early, which is unlikely, I would agree that his conditioning was questionable. But nerves add to your fatigue in the ring. You get anxious, and even the punches you throw just to keep busy will wear you out, as opposed to a calm and relaxed Hopkins who had been in that situation before. Being relaxed allows you to throw punches with greater ease.

I just wish people would wait for the rematch, where Taylor will be better prepared before they start judging him.

[deuce_drop]

it was a gift for taylor, plain and simple. he in no way took the championship away from the champ. in the championship rounds he was dominated, battered, and hurt. he did win the first few rounds, but only due to hopkins game plan. he was out landed in overall punches, and he did not once hit hopkins with a clean shot, to where hopkins looked to clinch or get the hell out of dodge, but hopkins rocked taylor, had him clinching, and also had him reeling on the ropes.
hopkins neutralized his jab, his right hand, and got off quicker, and harder shots.... to beat the champion you have to dominate the champ, at least have a exclamation point on things by either knocking him down or pounding him into the ropes and not letting the other fighter answer any of the exchanges. it was a gift, taylor didn't win, not decisively anyway. at all fairness going by numbers it should have been a draw, but when it comes down to the champion rounds, hopkins was the champ and fought like one.
hopkins was fighting more than just taylor in there too...he was fighting hbo, dibella, the judges, and overall boxing politics.
this wasn't written out of anger or favortism toward certain people, this was written as pure facts seen through my eyes and most of the boxing community.....taylors birthday and christmas came early this year!!!!

[MrCoop]

Why do people keep saying that Taylor should have been better conditioned than B-Hop?

Do you even follow boxing at all?

People work their way up into longer fights... B-Hop SHOULD have been able to outwork Taylor throughout the entire fight, not just the last 4 rounds.

Common, COMMON boxing knowledge that younger fighters usually gas earlier until they get a few 12 rounders(especially title fights) under their belts... If you haven't realized this by now, stop watchin the sport.

ARE U ****IN SERIOUS? Taylor has 23 professional fights under his belt & has went the distance before & not been that tired. YOU HAVE THIS ONE ASS BACKWARDS BUDDY! In any sport in the world most that think a 26 yr old should be in better shape than a 40 yr old man. The older guy does have the experience but should not by logic be in better condition than the younger man. THATS A CROCK OF ****!

[Stealthic]

ARE U ****IN SERIOUS? Taylor has 23 professional fights under his belt & has went the distance before & not been that tired. YOU HAVE THIS ONE ASS BACKWARDS BUDDY! In any sport in the world most that think a 26 yr old should be in better shape than a 40 yr old man. The older guy does have the experience but should not by logic be in better condition than the younger man. THATS A CROCK OF ****!

*sigh* This is getting easy.

Taylor had gone the distance before, but NOT in a TITLE FIGHT. And NOT against the best Middleweight in the past 10 years.

If you can't see the difference there, I don't know what to say.

It has a lot less to do with CONDITIONING, and much much more to do with experience in a championship level fight. Nerves come into play, patience comes into play, pacing yourself comes into play, and Taylor had never experienced that before. All the other 12 rounders were to build up his stamina. It's easy to coast 12 rounds against the likes of a Joppy who you are easily dominating and isn't even making you work hard...

23 professional fights!! LoL, and you're expecting him to be bale to stand 12 with Hopkins and not tire?!?!

The real question is: Are YOU ****in serious?

[Seven]

The author of this thread is in denial I see. Well, we'll see how Hopkins rebounds after losing to a mere rookie. I don't think Hopkins wins the rematch, in fact he'll lose it by a bigger margin than he lost the first fight.

It was Taylor who gained experience and knowledge from the first fight, not Bernard... Next time Taylor will win the rounds more definitively and I guaruntee he'll have Hopkins running from rounds 1-12, instead of round 1-9.

Taylor will not have B-Hop running from rounds 1-12. He can't, he gassed last time. Yes, he gained a lot of experience but he knows he didn't win the fight in his heart. He knows it was a draw. And yes, he'll train harder, stronger, and smarter but then again so will B-Hop. You learn a lot more from a loss then you do a win. Hopkins will play the same game he did in the first fight, but he'll start doing damage earlier then the 9th round. He'll win by UD.

[MrCoop]

*sigh* This is getting easy.

Taylor had gone the distance before, but NOT in a TITLE FIGHT. And NOT against the best Middleweight in the past 10 years.

If you can't see the difference there, I don't know what to say.

It has a lot less to do with CONDITIONING, and much much more to do with experience in a championship level fight. Nerves come into play, patience comes into play, pacing yourself comes into play, and Taylor had never experienced that before. All the other 12 rounders were to build up his stamina. It's easy to coast 12 rounds against the likes of a Joppy who you are easily dominating and isn't even making you work hard...

23 professional fights!! LoL, and you're expecting him to be bale to stand 12 with Hopkins and not tire?!?!

The real question is: Are YOU ****in serious?

You basically just made my point! I said a 40 yr old fighter like Hopkins has way more experience, but that the younger Taylor should be in just as good if not better conditioning. If his inexperience caused him to do ****** things resulting in a loss of conditioning thats one thing but you said that young fighters are'nt as well conditioned when what you should have said is that their inexperience affects their conditioning. & I AM ****IN SERIOUS! LOL.

[Stealthic]

Wow, so you basically took my point and took it to a whole new level of technicality...

I was bitching because people were questioning Taylor's conditioning... I said it had less to do with conditioning than inexperience, and it would be a shock if he stood and ****** with Hopkins for 12 rounds.

Wow...