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  • Dynamite Kid
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    Do British fighters have it easier than American fighters?

    Do British fighters have it easier than American fighters? it seems to me they do, its like they are protected so much earlier in their career that when they finally fight someone, who is usually a careful selected legend who is sliding, they are ready cause they have been doing on the job training for so long against stiffs.


    I watch ESPN, Shobox, Showtime, HBO, almost every broadcast i can get my hands on week by week, and i see prospects when im watching these shows that i know if were British would be considered prospects in Britain, only they might struggle to make a name for themselves in America because the talent pool is so competitive in comparison to the Brit Boxing scene.

    Take John Murray, this guy was outboxed by a journeyman when he went to America to fight, and he is being touted as a Brit prospect, Tony Jeffries, this cat is absolute garbage but he gets the big billing from Skysports.

    Then you have the whole fan base thing, some of these guys, Khan specifically gets to pick a choose who he wants to avoid cause he can make money due to building his fan base in Britain.
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    It used to be that way,not so much anymore.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Ahh!!! kid
      Do British fighters have it easier than American fighters? it seems to me they do, its like they are protected so much earlier in their career that when they finally fight someone, who is usually a careful selected legend who is sliding, they are ready cause they have been doing on the job training for so long against stiffs.


      I watch ESPN, Shobox, Showtime, HBO, almost every broadcast i can get my hands on week by week, and i see prospects when im watching these shows that i know if were British would be considered prospects in Britain, only they might struggle to make a name for themselves in America because the talent pool is so competitive in comparison to the Brit Boxing scene.

      Take John Murray, this guy was outboxed by a journeyman when he went to America to fight, and he is being touted as a Brit prospect, Tony Jeffries, this cat is absolute garbage but he gets the big billing from Skysports.

      Then you have the whole fan base thing, some of these guys, Khan specifically gets to pick a choose who he wants to avoid cause he can make money due to building his fan base in Britain.
      Who did Jacobs fight in 20 career matchups again?

      And America has 6 times the population of the UK. Of course you are going to have a bigger talent pool. Stop picking on the small guys and go after Eastern Europe, because it seems like they're taking all your belts.

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        #4
        Originally posted by timba
        Who did Jacobs fight in 20 career matchups again?

        And America has 6 times the population of the UK. Of course you are going to have a bigger talent pool. Stop picking on the small guys and go after Eastern Europe, because it seems like they're taking all your belts.
        Thats not the issue, im talking about whether they get it easier or not.

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          Originally posted by Ahh!!! kid
          Thats not the issue, im talking about whether they get it easier or not.
          Well of course they have it easier, because the talent pool is not as deep. It's impossible to fight well rounded opponents every match up because it's just not there.

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            In Britain, top prospects in the same weight class don't spar eachother. The best on our domestic scene don't spar with eachother either.

            Why?

            Because they're going for those British/European/CW titles.

            To be honest, I'd like to see our best prospects in divisions go head-2-head earlier in their careers.

            At least Macklin-Barker is happening, Witter-Hatton should have happened.

            Lets hope Groves fights De Gale.

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              #7
              Originally posted by timba
              Well of course they have it easier, because the talent pool is not as deep. It's impossible to fight well rounded opponents every match up because it's just not there.
              Thats rubbish, British promoters try to protect their fighters from good fighters, thats the truth.

              There is far more predictability watching an Brit prospect "step up his comp", than there is watching an American, and yes it is part because there is more talent in America, but its also because Brit promoters protect their investment far more by putting their fighters in with pushovers.

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                Originally posted by Demise
                In Britain, top prospects in the same weight class don't spar eachother. The best on our domestic scene don't spar with eachother either.

                Why?

                Because they're going for those British/European/CW titles.

                To be honest, I'd like to see our best prospects in divisions go head-2-head earlier in their careers.

                At least Macklin-Barker is happening, Witter-Hatton should have happened.

                Lets hope Groves fights De Gale.
                Macklin vs Barker is a good example to two potential world title contenders facing each other to get a shot. The winner of that fight probably deserves a shot too. Both are in the top 10 on boxrec.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Ahh!!! kid
                  Thats rubbish, British promoters try to protect their fighters from good fighters, thats the truth.

                  There is far more predictability watching an Brit prospect "step up his comp", than there is watching an American, and yes it is part because there is more talent in America, but its also because Brit promoters protect their investment far more by putting their fighters in with pushovers.
                  British promoters have to protect their investments, because they don't have many other fighters to fill the gap if they lose. If not a great situation for British boxing fans, but that's the way it is. And I don't see why you are comparing America to Britain. Two completely different countries in scale and in culture.

                  But for the record,

                  Alexander vs Bradley?
                  Dawson vs Cloud?

                  Have those taken place yet?

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                    Originally posted by timba
                    British promoters have to protect their investments, because they don't have many other fighters to fill the gap if they lose. If not a great situation for British boxing fans, but that's the way it is. And I don't see why you are comparing America to Britain. Two completely different countries in scale and in culture.

                    But for the record,

                    Alexander vs Bradley?
                    Dawson vs Cloud?

                    Have those taken place yet?

                    Well PR dont do what we do, yet they still produce top elite fighters, infact they have produced better fighters than we have, we have the quantity, but they produce the better quality.

                    You know what makes me laugh though, that die hard British Boxing fans like you hate on Frank Warren, yet he is prolly the reason Britain has been able to nurture so much talent through cherry picking faded legends and feeding his fighters stiffs, id of thought you guys would be reping him, not chastising him?

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