Who do you think REALLY won Martinez-Williams?

**7 Mares** · 08-01-2010, 06:02 PM

Even by the simple fact that they gave P Will the first round in the scorecards proves that the whole fight was **** scoring.

**MOTHER DUCKER** · 08-01-2010, 06:02 PM

Co-sign he won by a few rounds.. even though he gassed and let Williams into it. If he was prepared properly for Williams he wouldn't and would have come on strong late on like he did vs Pavlik

**Doctor_Tenma** · 08-01-2010, 06:06 PM

Where is draw?

**B.U.R.N.E.R** · 08-01-2010, 06:09 PM

Who won Pac-Clottey?

Because after all Pac was busted up and Clottey looked fine.

Martinez said he lost thats fine with me.

**BoxerDood** · 08-01-2010, 06:10 PM

Originally posted by WAR ENGLAND

Co-sign he won by a few rounds.. even though he gassed and let Williams into it. If he was prepared properly for Williams he wouldn't and would have come on strong late on like he did vs Pavlik

That is completely off.

1. Before the fight was in the talks, Williams just got a call out of nowhere saying Martinez was training for him and he was willing to replace Pavlik. He had more time to prepare than Williams did. So if anything, he had the advantage. Especially considering how Williams had to go from training for an orthodox, one dimensional power puncher to training for a south paw, slick boxer. That's not easy to do at all. You have to bring in new sparring partners and change your whole entire strategy. For example, look what happened when Cintron pulled out of the fight at 147 and Williams replaced him with Quintana. Williams got schooled because he wasn't ready. But when he got a full camp going and brought in Collazo for sparring, what happened? He destroyed Quintana in one round.

2. Martinez's stamina did not improve in the Pavlik fight. He just took a few rounds off because he knew he wouldn't be able to fight at that pace for the whole fight. That's the only reason why he was able to have that late come back. Its called preserving your stamina. Sugar Shane, who also never had the best stamina in the world did the same thing, and nobody ever noticed.

**Gorilla Dogs** · 08-01-2010, 06:11 PM

Originally posted by No Ceilings

Who won Pac-Clottey?

Because after all Pac was busted up and Clottey looked fine.

Martinez said he lost thats fine with me.

He lost on the cards, you cant honesltly defend Williams scorecard win with the 119-110 card, really

Did Clottey put Pacquiao on ***** street and knock him down? I dont think so junior

**Heru** · 08-01-2010, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by WAR ENGLAND

Co-sign he won by a few rounds.. even though he gassed and let Williams into it. If he was prepared properly for Williams he wouldn't and would have come on strong late on like he did vs Pavlik

He even won some of the rounds where he was gassed. How much more clean can you hit someone than Martinez did in the 11th? And it wasn't only once too.

**j.one** · 08-01-2010, 06:12 PM

After the fight was real telling, Sergio looks like he's ready to go out, Williams looks like he just got ****d.

**B.U.R.N.E.R** · 08-01-2010, 06:16 PM

Originally posted by QUELOQUE

He even won some of the rounds where he was gassed. How much more clean can you hit someone than Martinez did in the 11th? And it wasn't only once too.

Did you only watch Martinez highlights or the actual fight? Williams landed CLEAN several times.

Who do you think REALLY won Martinez-Williams?