Nothing Rjj Did Was Ever Appreciated??

[Ranger2408]

He was sweating like crazy too.
They say he can go the full 12 and more, but I didn't see it.
He was getting tired in the middle of the match.
At times it looked like he didn't want to get off the stool.
If he was anything like the people here say he is, he should have been knocking around and cutting up and dropping Booker.
He didn't do it.

finally he starts talking sense
toney did say after the fight he came in out of shape and he did tear his left bicep too not his shoulder, whether it is true i dont know.
You can also find lots of fighter history online if you use google.
Maybe he should have Koed him, although to be fair the fight should have been stopped at some stage, Booker was taking a huge beating and barely throwing.
I would definately love to see him back up his talk and go after some good heavies.

[Dr Cynical]

finally he starts talking sense
toney did say after the fight he came in out of shape and he did tear his left bicep too not his shoulder, whether it is true i dont know.
You can also find lots of fighter history online if you use google.
Maybe he should have Koed him, although to be fair the fight should have been stopped at some stage, Booker was taking a huge beating and barely throwing.
I would definately love to see him back up his talk and go after some good heavies.

Supposed injury or not, he shouldn't have gone 12 rounds with a ****ing bum.
He shouldn't have only start to hurt him in the 9th round, then not be able to take advantage of it.
Toney knows he's not that great of a fighter which is why he talks alot but will avoid guys who can beat him.

[jabsRstiff]

This must be your first day here.
Jirov
Sanders
Douglas
DM
and I have been wondering why he never fought Rocchingiani either
probably too busy fighting future hall of famers like glen kelly.

Jirov, Sanders, & Douglas are so much bigger than Roy Jones.

What kind of know-nothings are all of you to question a guy who was at his best at 168..& how he's reluctant to fight guys who outweigh him by 25 to 75 lbs ?
Ridiculous !
Don't you know, in the world of boxing, it's impossible to "duck" someone who is several divisions above you ?

Roy & Darius BOTH are responsible for that fight not happening.
Neither wanted to give up & go to the other guys' turf, PERIOD.

BTW.....Darius, a natural 175lber...NEVER moved up in weight, yet....I don't hear you guys criticizing him for that !

[LuKahnLi]

Hmm..
From what you guys say, it seems as though Toney was good BACK THEN.
Now he is just fat and loud and slow.
He looked bad against Booker.
I expected more from Toney due to everyone praising him.

Guess what? Jones beat Toney 'Back Then'.

[LuKahnLi]

This must be your first day here.
Jirov
Sanders
Douglas
DM
and I have been wondering why he never fought Rocchingiani either
probably too busy fighting future hall of famers like glen kelly.

WHAT?????

You are really going to say that not fighting guys who were in heavier divisions than him (At his best he was 168 lber) detracts from his legacy?

Hell, you might as well say that Marvin Hagler avoided Michael Spinks.

This must be your first day debating with someone who KNOWS what they are talking about.

[El Jesus]

Dr Cynical, I hope I am always on your side. I would hate to be against you in an argument or discussion. I think it is impossible to beat you.

the only thing im seeing from both sides is a sheer lack of humility and alot of "shut the **** up!" "no you shut the **** up!"

just alot of lack of respect from both sides.

[Neuraxis]

WHAT?????

You are really going to say that not fighting guys who were in heavier divisions than him (At his best he was 168 lber) detracts from his legacy?

Hell, you might as well say that Marvin Hagler avoided Michael Spinks.

This must be your first day debating with someone who KNOWS what they are talking about.

So DM and Rocchingiani were in higher weight classes? That's news to me.

[theironone]

BTW.....Darius, a natural 175lber...NEVER moved up in weight, yet....I don't hear you guys criticizing him for that ![/QUOTE]


Dariusz was a champ at 190 too by the way, before he got to 175.
I think DM and RJ are both partly responsible for the fight not going ahead, both not wanting to give to much 'home' advantage to the other.
For me though DM was the true champ RJ just picked up his castaways you gotta beat the champ to be the champ!
However (lol) as i'm sure your all aware RJ looked better beating the same men DM beat and sine DM lost to JG I do actually think RJ was the better fighter but he still should of fought DM to truly proclaim he was the man at 175 and to prove it one way or another, my prediction for that would of been Jones W12 by 3 or 4 rounds.

[jabsRstiff]

So DM and Rocchingiani were in higher weight classes? That's news to me.

To suggest that Roy ducked Rocchigiani is absolutely absurd.
Rocchigiani was never a force in that division.
He was a good fighter...but I don't remember ANYONE caring if they duked it out.

[Dr Cynical]

Guess what? Jones beat Toney 'Back Then'.

And?
He beat Hopkins too 'Back Then'.
What is your point?