Nothing Rjj Did Was Ever Appreciated??

[Dr Cynical]

come on be objective you may hate him but he achieved more than most fighters will dream of

Even if I thought that was true (which I don't), it doesn't matter.
I hate the guy so much as a person and also hate him as a fighter.
Why can't that be allowed?
I see the extreme loving and praising of RJJ is allowed.

[LuKahnLi]

You are allowing your like or dislike to cloud your evaluation of his skills. You are allowing the subjective to obscure the objective. That is problematic for you.

[Dr Cynical]

I think you really need to evaluate certain aspects on the way you deal with your opinion.

If you're going to use moronic terms like "hater", then I feel that I should reply to you in the same ****** fashion.

[El Jesus]

Even if I thought that was true (which I don't), it doesn't matter.
I hate the guy so much as a person and also hate him as a fighter.
Why can't that be allowed?
I see the extreme loving and praising of RJJ is allowed.

because hating someone is a sign of a major character flaw, though all of us hate at one point or another, for you to hate someone you dont know, and to bring down others who like him, no matter what they say, is a sign of envy and just a major character flaw on your part.

Usually hate stems from an experiance, or alot of anguish built up inside a person and the person they hate had an incident at one point or another personally that would cause that hate.

But to hate someone you dont know, is just foolish.

[El Jesus]

If you're going to use moronic terms like "hater", then I feel that I should reply to you in the same ****** fashion.

did you not say you hated him?

if your calling me a ****sucker, your implying i engage in ****sexual acts with other males, which i didint say. I expect to get back what i give, but you admitted you hate roy, so how are you not a hater?

[Dr Cynical]

You are allowing your like or dislike to cloud your evaluation of his skills. You are allowing the subjective to obscure the objective. That is problematic for you.

Look at it this way.
Say someone was a great football star and did all these great things for the sport.
Yet, the person ******ed and ****d children and was even found guilty of murder not once, but several times.
Knowing what he did outside of the ring, would you still respect anything he did in football?

Now that's a bit of an extreme example.
But I just don't like RJJ and that won't change.
I see no need to give him credit when he has done nothing to deserve it.
If he really was focused on boxing he would have improved his skills and stopped all the **** talking (which he hardly ever backed up) and got his mind off of rapping and acting which he can't do.

[jabsRstiff]

Even if I thought that was true (which I don't), it doesn't matter.
I hate the guy so much as a person and also hate him as a fighter.
Why can't that be allowed?
I see the extreme loving and praising of RJJ is allowed.

I think you're missing the point..

Sure, you can hate Jones...& want to see him KO'd. You can say you don't enjoy watching him fight, that he's boring.

But, you cannot deny his accomplishments...or his ability.
There's just a mountain evidence to support him.

You've made the mistake of calling me a Jones fan..
I post on another forum where I'm considered a Jones hater.

I think he was ridiculously talented....& beat a lot of good fighters in multiple classes, & did so with ease.

I also think he talked too much....I thought he could be very boring quite often....I thought he didn't fight everyone he could have. But, that's because I truly believed he'd have beaten anyone he stepped into the ring against, up to 175....& I couldn't understand why he was reluctant to do so.

[jabsRstiff]

"Knowing what he did outside of the ring, would you still respect anything he did in football?"

I believe O.J. Simpson is both a murderer & one of the best running backs in history.

[Dr Cynical]

I think you're missing the point..

Sure, you can hate Jones...& want to see him KO'd. You can say you don't enjoy watching him fight, that he's boring.

But, you cannot deny his accomplishments...or his ability.
There's just a mountain evidence to support him.

You've made the mistake of calling me a Jones fan..
I post on another forum where I'm considered a Jones hater.

I think he was ridiculously talented....& beat a lot of good fighters in multiple classes, & did so with ease.

I also think he talked too much....I thought he could be very boring quite often....I thought he didn't fight everyone he could have. But, that's because I truly believed he'd have beaten anyone he stepped into the ring against, up to 175....& I couldn't understand why he was reluctant to do so.

I said he was **** because he didn't focus on boxing only and didn't care to improve his skills or really back up the **** he talked.

[Dr Cynical]

because hating someone is a sign of a major character flaw, though all of us hate at one point or another, for you to hate someone you dont know, and to bring down others who like him, no matter what they say, is a sign of envy and just a major character flaw on your part.

Usually hate stems from an experiance, or alot of anguish built up inside a person and the person they hate had an incident at one point or another personally that would cause that hate.

But to hate someone you dont know, is just foolish.

It's not a major character flaw to rightly hate someone.
I have posted why I hate RJJ and I don't care if people hate me for it or not.
I have seen and heard enough from and about that piece of **** to know that I hate him.

But.. If you want to go with what was said in your post, then you can't hate or like any celebrity because we don't really know that person.

Also, the "hater" term is mostly used by morons who refuse to speak in actual english and opt for that horrid ebonics bull****.
That's why I thought you deserved the reply I previously gave you.