Comments Thread For: Cotto vs Chavez Jr Clash on December 4 in Las Vegas?

[prsi]

Clottey and Judah are tough fights for someone like Cotto, because Cotto isn't that good. Elite fighters beat those guys easily. Quintana, I guess I can give you that one. But who did Cotto fight after that? Urkal? Lol. And Malinaggi got ass ****d by Hatton and Khan, so how is that a good win.

Look at the pattern in the lead up to Cotto and Margarito's fight with each other.

Clottey and Quintana are about the same level I'd say.
But........
Judah < Paul Williams
Gomez < Cintron

Clottey has been a tough fight for everyone he has face besides Pacman and this includes Margarito an Corrales.
Judah has been an easy fight only for Tszyu, and this includes Spinks, Baldomir and even Mayweather until the brawl between the corners stopped the fight for a while.

Then you contradict yourself because you say that Clottey is tough fight only for Cotto, then you say that you'll "give me Quintana".

A couple of sentence later you say that Clottey and Quintana are at the same level. Make up your mind.

Regarding Paulie, our conversation is based on your opinion of who's a tough fight not who beat who and Paulie although lost to those you mentioned 1st, that came after Cotto disfigured his face when he was unbeaten and 2nd he is in fact a tough fight because of his boxing skills and speed.

Then you come and compare William > Judah and Cintron > Gomez, well of course they are but that was not your point.

Were you fail once again is when you say that Cotto has NEVER face tough fighters back to back and I've proven you wrong once again.

[MurderDeathKill]

Bring it. Rather see Cotto-Berto, but if Cotto ain't feeling that, Chavez is ok. It's about time for him to get serious. I'm anxious to finally see him win big or lose big in an important fight. If he steps up here, pretty sure Cotto beats his ass.

[NWO4Life]

I am curious what fighters Iceta would actually classify as "great" fighters, or those he considers above "B-level" fighters. According to you, Miguel Cotto is a hype job bum and nothing more than a "B-level" fighter but if that was the case then who makes your cut for being "elite" or hell to make it easy let's just say who do you classify as being better than Cotto, and what exactly are your criteria for determining who is "elite" or "A-level". Does overall body of work count more than current capability or recent bouts? Are you going by where you think a fighter is NOW, where they have been their past 3-5 fights, or their entire career?

So who exactly makes your cut, and why?

[DeelDough]

I am curious what fighters Iceta would actually classify as "great" fighters, or those he considers above "B-level" fighters. According to you, Miguel Cotto is a hype job bum and nothing more than a "B-level" fighter but if that was the case then who makes your cut for being "elite" or hell to make it easy let's just say who do you classify as being better than Cotto, and what exactly are your criteria for determining who is "elite" or "A-level". Does overall body of work count more than current capability or recent bouts? Are you going by where you think a fighter is NOW, where they have been their past 3-5 fights, or their entire career?

So who exactly makes your cut, and why?

Iceta doesnt know **** bro , he is just a bitter loser

[Check]

What a bum ass hype job Cotto is.

You can be mad about the proposed fight but calling Miguel a bum or hype job is some jealous ass hating. Miguel has never shied away from a tough fight and has built a career on fighting great fighters and beating them. He has one of the best resumes in the sport.

[ChampBox@PR]

Cotto wont accept this fight.

[Check]

Cotto wont accept this fight.

Probably not but wouldn't it be awesome to see him **** baby Chavez up? I know I would love it.

[reneg_2]

Facts...

Chavez is a HUGE underdog if this fight happens... but i give him a sold chance to win. obviously cotto is a better fighter all around. now that given, jcc jr is bigger and i do think he's as strong or slightly stronger because he's a bigger build...anyway...i see this fight going full 12 rounds.

and ricans...i know u hate this guy cause his dad embarrassed your boys edwin rosario and machita "big ass mouth" camacho just admit it! its all fair in boxing! hahaha!

[ManOfVictory]

Probably not but wouldn't it be awesome to see him **** baby Chavez up? I know I would love it.

Too bad that wouldnt take away the pain you felt when JCC Senior made ****got Camacho his bit.ch! LOL
Or when Marg made Cotto quit.
Or when Snachez battered ur hero Gomez.
Or....id rather stop there.

[Iceta Lives]

Clottey has been a tough fight for everyone he has face besides Pacman and this includes Margarito an Corrales.
Judah has been an easy fight only for Tszyu, and this includes Spinks, Baldomir and even Mayweather until the brawl between the corners stopped the fight for a while.

Then you contradict yourself because you say that Clottey is tough fight only for Cotto, then you say that you'll "give me Quintana".

A couple of sentence later you say that Clottey and Quintana are at the same level. Make up your mind.

Regarding Paulie, our conversation is based on your opinion of who's a tough fight not who beat who and Paulie although lost to those you mentioned 1st, that came after Cotto disfigured his face when he was unbeaten and 2nd he is in fact a tough fight because of his boxing skills and speed.

Then you come and compare William > Judah and Cintron > Gomez, well of course they are but that was not your point.

Were you fail once again is when you say that Cotto has NEVER face tough fighters back to back and I've proven you wrong once again.

Actually, I tried to be nice when in reality Quintana isn't a good fighter when you stop to think about it. Williams got beat by him, of course. But then look at how their careers went in separate directions after Williams KOd him in one round. Williams goes on to beat Sergio Martinez (controversial or not) and Winky (inactive or not) and Quintana gets KOd by a green fighter with a bicep injury. Lol.